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My Pixel (and I wouldn't buy anything other than Google hardware for Android because the integration and UX is top in the industry IMO) syncs up to my Google ac

My Pixel (and I wouldn't buy anything other than Google hardware for Android because the integration and UX is top in the industry IMO) syncs up to my Google account, all my photos are freely stored, my phone backup is free, and any other backup data counts toward my Google One account. If I bought an iPhone I'd have to buy Apple storage to do all of that, and I don't want to. My Google One account has Youtube Music and Youtube premium along with the storage. I never see Youtube ads which alone is worth every penny. Other than that I really don't miss one thing from my old iPhone. Smartphones are so good these days all iOS competes on is sugar on top.

nr2x 3y ago
Apple offers full photo encryption as if this year, whereas Google can - and will - give your local gestapo your photo roll, mysteriously delete your account for taking pictures of your kids, and do god knows what with them for data mining.
- smoldesu 3y ago
  > whereas Google can - and will - give your local gestapo your photo roll Sounds[0] familiar[1]... [0] https://www.apple.com/legal/transparency/ https://www.apple.com/legal/transparency/ [1] https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208351 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208351
  - nr2x 3y ago
    Not with ADP enabled, which is new.
    - smoldesu 3y ago
      End-to-end encryption can only be trusted up to a point when Apple owns both ends.
      - nr2x 3y ago
        There are very steep legal penalties for lying about it, and it’s not available in China, so on balance I think it’s a reasonable risk, especially since Android makes no such promises.
        smoldesu 3y ago
        Android is not a cloud service like iCloud. Fundamentally it will not make any promises about the encryption of it's services. That being said, I can use open-source projects like Syncthing or Owncloud to handle my syncing, and skip the whole mutual trust part. Though I'm sure the NSA does a wonderful job auditing Apple's private codebase, for whatever sense of security that offers.
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- realusername 3y ago
  If your really care about that, there's nothing else than GrapheneOS at the moment. Both Google and Apple will side against you here.
  - nr2x 3y ago
    That’s the entire point of ADP, you don’t need Apple to side sorb or against you, they don’t have the keys. Google doesn’t offer that and Graphene isn’t a photo hosting service.
D13Fd 3y ago
Part of it comes down to whether you truest Google. I personally would rather Apple have my personal information than Google, who is actively trying to monetize it through advertising sales. I don't even use them for search. (I know Apple is inching down that path too, but so far they have simultaneously maintained their privacy focus.)

nr2x 3y ago

Apple offers full photo encryption as if this year, whereas Google can - and will - give your local gestapo your photo roll, mysteriously delete your account for taking pictures of your kids, and do god knows what with them for data mining.

smoldesu 3y ago
> whereas Google can - and will - give your local gestapo your photo roll Sounds[0] familiar[1]... [0] https://www.apple.com/legal/transparency/ https://www.apple.com/legal/transparency/ [1] https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208351 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208351
- nr2x 3y ago
  Not with ADP enabled, which is new.
  - smoldesu 3y ago
    End-to-end encryption can only be trusted up to a point when Apple owns both ends.
    - nr2x 3y ago
      There are very steep legal penalties for lying about it, and it’s not available in China, so on balance I think it’s a reasonable risk, especially since Android makes no such promises.
      - smoldesu 3y ago
        Android is not a cloud service like iCloud. Fundamentally it will not make any promises about the encryption of it's services. That being said, I can use open-source projects like Syncthing or Owncloud to handle my syncing, and skip the whole mutual trust part. Though I'm sure the NSA does a wonderful job auditing Apple's private codebase, for whatever sense of security that offers.
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realusername 3y ago
If your really care about that, there's nothing else than GrapheneOS at the moment. Both Google and Apple will side against you here.
- nr2x 3y ago
  That’s the entire point of ADP, you don’t need Apple to side sorb or against you, they don’t have the keys. Google doesn’t offer that and Graphene isn’t a photo hosting service.

D13Fd 3y ago

Part of it comes down to whether you truest Google. I personally would rather Apple have my personal information than Google, who is actively trying to monetize it through advertising sales. I don't even use them for search. (I know Apple is inching down that path too, but so far they have simultaneously maintained their privacy focus.)