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Unsure if you're being obtuse or sarcastic. However in case this is an actual reply, there are a lot of things wrong with it - they produce a closed ecosystem a

Unsure if you're being obtuse or sarcastic. However in case this is an actual reply, there are a lot of things wrong with it - they produce a closed ecosystem and deliberately hobble interoperability. These kinds of tactics are called platform abuse, but they have also conditioned a sizeable chunk of the population to consider it, and the ensuing behaviors, completely acceptable and moral. If anything, users should be asking for better interoperability, but the fact that I regularly see comments like yours makes me realize that their corporate brainwashing is successful, and secondly, glad that I do not live in that country.

nemothekid 3y ago
What I think is missed in this conversation is that this behavior seems to be almost exclusive to America as the rest of the world has moved onto WhatsApp. The "blue bubble" rants, to me are like complaining that google's messenger doesn't work with WhatsApp. I'm not sympathetic to Google here. They shit the bed on messaging for years, and now Apple must open up.
pb7 3y ago
A few questions: 1) Who is being abused? The platform? Can you elaborate? 2) Can you give an example of the corporate brainwashing you’re referring to? 3) What are you glad about specifically?
Klonoar 3y ago
It is not corporate brainwashing to simply want shit to “just work”. OP is rightfully pointing out that this is Google’s problem to solve.
- vetinari 3y ago
  Why it would be it only Google's problem to solve? There are several companies that already solved it, the world moved on, but only certain groups are harping on Apple and Google, nothing else. Why? Just use something else, Whatsapp, Signal, Telegram, they all work beautifully and are significantly popular.
  - Klonoar 3y ago
    This isn't a technical problem and you're more or less trying to say it is. There is a duopoloy in phone offerings and people in the USA just do it this way. If Google wants their market share - and to push back against Apple's offerings and prized position socially marked via bubble color - then it's on them. No other app is going to overcome the social issue here.
    - vetinari 3y ago
      I'm not saying that it is technical problem. I don't know, how you would arrive to such conclusion based on my comment. I'm saying that there's no reason why messaging should be put into hand of platform owners. The world is bigger, and if a third party makes a good entry, why ignore it and insist, that only Google and Apple are allowed?

nemothekid 3y ago

What I think is missed in this conversation is that this behavior seems to be almost exclusive to America as the rest of the world has moved onto WhatsApp. The "blue bubble" rants, to me are like complaining that google's messenger doesn't work with WhatsApp. I'm not sympathetic to Google here. They shit the bed on messaging for years, and now Apple must open up.

pb7 3y ago

A few questions: 1) Who is being abused? The platform? Can you elaborate? 2) Can you give an example of the corporate brainwashing you’re referring to? 3) What are you glad about specifically?

Klonoar 3y ago

It is not corporate brainwashing to simply want shit to “just work”. OP is rightfully pointing out that this is Google’s problem to solve.

vetinari 3y ago
Why it would be it only Google's problem to solve? There are several companies that already solved it, the world moved on, but only certain groups are harping on Apple and Google, nothing else. Why? Just use something else, Whatsapp, Signal, Telegram, they all work beautifully and are significantly popular.
- Klonoar 3y ago
  This isn't a technical problem and you're more or less trying to say it is. There is a duopoloy in phone offerings and people in the USA just do it this way. If Google wants their market share - and to push back against Apple's offerings and prized position socially marked via bubble color - then it's on them. No other app is going to overcome the social issue here.
  - vetinari 3y ago
    I'm not saying that it is technical problem. I don't know, how you would arrive to such conclusion based on my comment. I'm saying that there's no reason why messaging should be put into hand of platform owners. The world is bigger, and if a third party makes a good entry, why ignore it and insist, that only Google and Apple are allowed?