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Not only that, but I find Android to just be a miserable UI/UX nightmare, and the Play Store to be filled with somehow 9/10 apps being shit instead of the App S

Not only that, but I find Android to just be a miserable UI/UX nightmare, and the Play Store to be filled with somehow 9/10 apps being shit instead of the App Store's even 6/10 being shit. I recently purchased an Android (Galaxy S20) for testing a cross platform app I've been working on and was shocked at how much worse it's gotten over the years. If you have a choice, and you do - (just buy a used iPhone a couple generations back, I got an iPhone 8 recently for $100 CDN) - I can't fathom why you'd choose Android, especially with Google's telemetry. The iOS OS itself is incomparably easier and more pleasant to use (even my 120hz Galaxy S20 device has animations that are choppy as all hell) - and that's not even getting to the borderline unbelievable difference in hardware quality. I paid $250 CDN used for this S20, and $100 for the iPhone 8 I recently snagged. The 6-year-old iPhone 8 runs incomparably better than the 3-year-old S20.

smoldesu 3y ago
> I can't fathom why you'd choose Android, especially with Google's telemetry. Because Google lets you remove their telemetry, and Apple doesn't?
rorroe53 3y ago
Yeah, I think buying an used iPhone is the best value for money at this point. Depending on the model you get the same or more years of support than from new Android for similar price. The iOS UX is so smooth I had zero trouble switching from Android to iOS, even though I had never touched an iPhone before. I'll reconsider Android phone only when manufacturers start providing as many years of software support as Apple does. Planned, premature obscolence is unethical and sucks.
monkeynotes 3y ago
My Pixel (and I wouldn't buy anything other than Google hardware for Android because the integration and UX is top in the industry IMO) syncs up to my Google account, all my photos are freely stored, my phone backup is free, and any other backup data counts toward my Google One account. If I bought an iPhone I'd have to buy Apple storage to do all of that, and I don't want to. My Google One account has Youtube Music and Youtube premium along with the storage. I never see Youtube ads which alone is worth every penny. Other than that I really don't miss one thing from my old iPhone. Smartphones are so good these days all iOS competes on is sugar on top.
- nr2x 3y ago
  Apple offers full photo encryption as if this year, whereas Google can - and will - give your local gestapo your photo roll, mysteriously delete your account for taking pictures of your kids, and do god knows what with them for data mining.
  - smoldesu 3y ago
    > whereas Google can - and will - give your local gestapo your photo roll Sounds[0] familiar[1]... [0] https://www.apple.com/legal/transparency/ https://www.apple.com/legal/transparency/ [1] https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208351 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208351
    - nr2x 3y ago
      Not with ADP enabled, which is new.
      - smoldesu 3y ago
        End-to-end encryption can only be trusted up to a point when Apple owns both ends.
        nr2x 3y ago
        There are very steep legal penalties for lying about it, and it’s not available in China, so on balance I think it’s a reasonable risk, especially since Android makes no such promises.
        smoldesu 3y ago
        Android is not a cloud service like iCloud. Fundamentally it will not make any promises about the encryption of it's services. That being said, I can use open-source projects like Syncthing or Owncloud to handle my syncing, and skip the whole mutual trust part. Though I'm sure the NSA does a wonderful job auditing Apple's private codebase, for whatever sense of security that offers.

smoldesu 3y ago

> I can't fathom why you'd choose Android, especially with Google's telemetry. Because Google lets you remove their telemetry, and Apple doesn't?

rorroe53 3y ago

Yeah, I think buying an used iPhone is the best value for money at this point. Depending on the model you get the same or more years of support than from new Android for similar price. The iOS UX is so smooth I had zero trouble switching from Android to iOS, even though I had never touched an iPhone before. I'll reconsider Android phone only when manufacturers start providing as many years of software support as Apple does. Planned, premature obscolence is unethical and sucks.

monkeynotes 3y ago

My Pixel (and I wouldn't buy anything other than Google hardware for Android because the integration and UX is top in the industry IMO) syncs up to my Google account, all my photos are freely stored, my phone backup is free, and any other backup data counts toward my Google One account. If I bought an iPhone I'd have to buy Apple storage to do all of that, and I don't want to. My Google One account has Youtube Music and Youtube premium along with the storage. I never see Youtube ads which alone is worth every penny. Other than that I really don't miss one thing from my old iPhone. Smartphones are so good these days all iOS competes on is sugar on top.

nr2x 3y ago
Apple offers full photo encryption as if this year, whereas Google can - and will - give your local gestapo your photo roll, mysteriously delete your account for taking pictures of your kids, and do god knows what with them for data mining.
- smoldesu 3y ago
  > whereas Google can - and will - give your local gestapo your photo roll Sounds[0] familiar[1]... [0] https://www.apple.com/legal/transparency/ https://www.apple.com/legal/transparency/ [1] https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208351 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208351
  - nr2x 3y ago
    Not with ADP enabled, which is new.
    - smoldesu 3y ago
      End-to-end encryption can only be trusted up to a point when Apple owns both ends.
      - nr2x 3y ago
        There are very steep legal penalties for lying about it, and it’s not available in China, so on balance I think it’s a reasonable risk, especially since Android makes no such promises.
        smoldesu 3y ago
        Android is not a cloud service like iCloud. Fundamentally it will not make any promises about the encryption of it's services. That being said, I can use open-source projects like Syncthing or Owncloud to handle my syncing, and skip the whole mutual trust part. Though I'm sure the NSA does a wonderful job auditing Apple's private codebase, for whatever sense of security that offers.