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Not that I disagree but you are accusing OP of shilling/astroturfing and I suspect its one reason why threads like these get downmodded.

• jonhohle 3y ago
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  • eli 3y ago
    Yup everyone who disagrees with you is taking payoffs as part of a big conspiracy. What other explanation could there be for why people disagree with you?
  • peteradio 3y ago
    Do you really expect the thread to be full of agreement? Upvote the best discourse and if you think someone is speaking fallacy then downvote or refute. I think it would be interesting to have a separate discussion which explores the subject of astroturfing but do you think OP is going to be like "right you are, here I am an astroturfer AMA" right here in this thread?