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Dude, you are absolutely not being productive in the 12 hours of indentured servitude. You need to find a new job. The people at your current job aren't your f

Dude, you are absolutely not being productive in the 12 hours of indentured servitude. You need to find a new job. The people at your current job aren't your friends. They've let you arrange to give away a full 50% your life (most of what's left must be occupied by sleep, pissing, shitting, eating, and paying bills). Not a single person in your life has said anything or tried to get you out of the office earlier? You should have at least one friend who cares about your wellbeing and doesn't view you as an object to be exploited without limit. Good luck, my dude.

dougmwne 3y ago
And then for this person to feel all this emotional pain over using their meager free hours training themselves to be even more profitably exploited. Our prisons really are created in our own minds.
- birdyrooster 3y ago
  Some people need to go to school, get certifications, do extracurricular activities, work unfulfilling jobs… just to give themselves permission to try for a better position. I have never understood this need for this rigor. It’s upsetting watching my friends fall distantly behind me because they won’t accept the risk of failing interviews or jobs (especially those with no children and have a significant savings). I have been fired multiple times and failed many interviews, and it was all worth it. I can sense their frustration with the “luck” I have had but it was all about taking those risks early on.
sesteel 3y ago
This deserves to be upvoted more. Trading your life for financial gain has diminishing returns. You'd think everybody's goal would to be free of servitude.
- justnotworthit 3y ago
  Most people's goal is security, I wager. But here's a quote you might like: “Self-sufficiency is the greatest wealth of all, and the greatest fruit of self-sufficiency is freedom.” – Epicurus
  - hipjiveguy 3y ago
    Nice quote, thanks for posting.... but, did Epicurus have a family, or care about anyone else? Makes me wonder... Anyone can pursue their passions, and realize their dreams, but you have to at least consider the affect on your wife or children. Now this is not saying don't get married, lol. It's just about choices. Realize that all we think and do, is so subjective. You could be the smartest guy in the world, or the most caring guy in the world. Which would you say matters more? Intellect fades. Youth fades. Life gives way to death. These are not bad things, but they are natural, as we come to understand. But in all of this, you have to be you, and not your parents. Never forget, your parents were children, and probably are in some ways, as the are with you, for your entire life. Forgive them, and yourself, but never forget, you can always love and help others. If this life had no point, and was "meaningless", then taking care of others is really more important than anyone. Every careful thought - it is special, and a beautiful exception.
- thealchemistdev 3y ago
  People aren't trained to think that way, even though we're surrounded by hints. For example, what do we call the strongest enemy in a level?
- tiedieconderoga 3y ago
  The problem is that you need a lot of money to be free of servitude.
  - HeyLaughingBoy 3y ago
    Servitude is thinking that you do.
    - feoren 3y ago
      Go tell that to the single mom working two minimum-wage jobs just to feed and house her kids. Go tell that to the homeless person. To the recent grad barely paying off the interest on his student loan that he took because he "had to go to college". Come off it.
      - deleted 3y ago
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      - savanaly 3y ago
        Are those all people described by the phrase "having a lot of money"? If not then you aren't contradicting their point at all.
        feoren 3y ago
        They said: > Servitude is thinking that you [need a lot of money to be free]. It's the old "money doesn't buy happiness" argument rehashed again -- plainly insulting to people who are actually in poverty.
- missedthecue 3y ago
  The point where the diminishing returns start happening is actually quite high however. Especially if you don't earn a US salary.
  - asdff 3y ago
    Stress takes off years of life too. IMO no job is really worth stress. Whats the point of working that hard to die five or ten years after you retire?
    - missedthecue 3y ago
      True stress is bad for health, but anecdotally I have noticed an impact on life expectancy due to occupation. Are there studies on this? Do emergency room surgeons for instance live shorter lives than insurance actuaries?
joenot443 3y ago
I would guess the work they're doing isn't what you'd expect. From their site - > Majored Japanese Language at university currently working at a Japanese company as a Japanese translator in Turkey and also, at the same time, self-studying web development slowly as it is my dream to be a developer. If they're working towards the dream many of us are blessed enough to be living right now, I have a hard time telling them to slow down. I admire that kind of work ethic, honestly.

dougmwne 3y ago

And then for this person to feel all this emotional pain over using their meager free hours training themselves to be even more profitably exploited. Our prisons really are created in our own minds.

birdyrooster 3y ago
Some people need to go to school, get certifications, do extracurricular activities, work unfulfilling jobs… just to give themselves permission to try for a better position. I have never understood this need for this rigor. It’s upsetting watching my friends fall distantly behind me because they won’t accept the risk of failing interviews or jobs (especially those with no children and have a significant savings). I have been fired multiple times and failed many interviews, and it was all worth it. I can sense their frustration with the “luck” I have had but it was all about taking those risks early on.

sesteel 3y ago

This deserves to be upvoted more. Trading your life for financial gain has diminishing returns. You'd think everybody's goal would to be free of servitude.

justnotworthit 3y ago
Most people's goal is security, I wager. But here's a quote you might like: “Self-sufficiency is the greatest wealth of all, and the greatest fruit of self-sufficiency is freedom.” – Epicurus
- hipjiveguy 3y ago
  Nice quote, thanks for posting.... but, did Epicurus have a family, or care about anyone else? Makes me wonder... Anyone can pursue their passions, and realize their dreams, but you have to at least consider the affect on your wife or children. Now this is not saying don't get married, lol. It's just about choices. Realize that all we think and do, is so subjective. You could be the smartest guy in the world, or the most caring guy in the world. Which would you say matters more? Intellect fades. Youth fades. Life gives way to death. These are not bad things, but they are natural, as we come to understand. But in all of this, you have to be you, and not your parents. Never forget, your parents were children, and probably are in some ways, as the are with you, for your entire life. Forgive them, and yourself, but never forget, you can always love and help others. If this life had no point, and was "meaningless", then taking care of others is really more important than anyone. Every careful thought - it is special, and a beautiful exception.
thealchemistdev 3y ago
People aren't trained to think that way, even though we're surrounded by hints. For example, what do we call the strongest enemy in a level?
tiedieconderoga 3y ago
The problem is that you need a lot of money to be free of servitude.
- HeyLaughingBoy 3y ago
  Servitude is thinking that you do.
  - feoren 3y ago
    Go tell that to the single mom working two minimum-wage jobs just to feed and house her kids. Go tell that to the homeless person. To the recent grad barely paying off the interest on his student loan that he took because he "had to go to college". Come off it.
    - deleted 3y ago
      [deleted]
    - savanaly 3y ago
      Are those all people described by the phrase "having a lot of money"? If not then you aren't contradicting their point at all.
      - feoren 3y ago
        They said: > Servitude is thinking that you [need a lot of money to be free]. It's the old "money doesn't buy happiness" argument rehashed again -- plainly insulting to people who are actually in poverty.
missedthecue 3y ago
The point where the diminishing returns start happening is actually quite high however. Especially if you don't earn a US salary.
- asdff 3y ago
  Stress takes off years of life too. IMO no job is really worth stress. Whats the point of working that hard to die five or ten years after you retire?
  - missedthecue 3y ago
    True stress is bad for health, but anecdotally I have noticed an impact on life expectancy due to occupation. Are there studies on this? Do emergency room surgeons for instance live shorter lives than insurance actuaries?

joenot443 3y ago

I would guess the work they're doing isn't what you'd expect. From their site - > Majored Japanese Language at university currently working at a Japanese company as a Japanese translator in Turkey and also, at the same time, self-studying web development slowly as it is my dream to be a developer. If they're working towards the dream many of us are blessed enough to be living right now, I have a hard time telling them to slow down. I admire that kind of work ethic, honestly.