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We're just going to have to deal with the climate changes like we have since life first sprang upon the earth. Like it or not, most people are not willing to d

We're just going to have to deal with the climate changes like we have since life first sprang upon the earth. Like it or not, most people are not willing to dramatically alter their way of life over this.

sneak 3y ago
This is fatalism. The way you "have to deal" with not having food to eat or working infrastructure is that you starve and die, or freeze and die, or get ill and die. Nobody wants this.
mecsred 3y ago
Willingness doesn't really factor into it. Everyone's way of life is going to change, regardless of if they want it to. That's what "dealing with it" like our ancestors refers to. It's more so just a choice if we want to take actions now to attempt to steer things or let things happen and tackle whatever comes.
- GiorgioG 3y ago
  People have been predicting climate doom and gloom since what 1970? I'm not saying climate change isn't real, it just isn't a high enough priority for the masses to make real change.
digging 3y ago
> Like it or not, most people are not willing to dramatically alter their way of life over this Frankly, it's up to people with influence to tell people what they want. I don't want this to be true, but we got here because influence-seeking entities (corporations) convinced people to buy a lifestyle that was unsustainable.
- porkbeer 3y ago
  Thats a really, really bad take. Authoritarianism is not the solution, education and independent action is.
  - digging 3y ago
    No, it's a badly explained take. I'm not supporting authoritarianism at all. I'm suggesting education, as well as corporate action, as well as systemic governmental change (like turning parking lots into train stations).
bryanlarsen 3y ago
With the right incentives people will change. For example, vehicle sales in Norway are over 80% EV.
CalRobert 3y ago
Your life will be dramatically altered. Depending on where you are and how wealthy you are, perhaps your life will end. If the wet bulb temp is 38C, the power goes out, and your generator fails, what exactly do you think is going to happen? There are no non-radical futures.

sneak 3y ago

This is fatalism. The way you "have to deal" with not having food to eat or working infrastructure is that you starve and die, or freeze and die, or get ill and die. Nobody wants this.

mecsred 3y ago

Willingness doesn't really factor into it. Everyone's way of life is going to change, regardless of if they want it to. That's what "dealing with it" like our ancestors refers to. It's more so just a choice if we want to take actions now to attempt to steer things or let things happen and tackle whatever comes.

GiorgioG 3y ago
People have been predicting climate doom and gloom since what 1970? I'm not saying climate change isn't real, it just isn't a high enough priority for the masses to make real change.

digging 3y ago

> Like it or not, most people are not willing to dramatically alter their way of life over this Frankly, it's up to people with influence to tell people what they want. I don't want this to be true, but we got here because influence-seeking entities (corporations) convinced people to buy a lifestyle that was unsustainable.

porkbeer 3y ago
Thats a really, really bad take. Authoritarianism is not the solution, education and independent action is.
- digging 3y ago
  No, it's a badly explained take. I'm not supporting authoritarianism at all. I'm suggesting education, as well as corporate action, as well as systemic governmental change (like turning parking lots into train stations).

bryanlarsen 3y ago

With the right incentives people will change. For example, vehicle sales in Norway are over 80% EV.

CalRobert 3y ago

Your life will be dramatically altered. Depending on where you are and how wealthy you are, perhaps your life will end. If the wet bulb temp is 38C, the power goes out, and your generator fails, what exactly do you think is going to happen? There are no non-radical futures.