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1) the rabbit jumped: (not conspiracy, fact could be true or false) 2) jfk was assassinated by the CIA: (conspiracy, fact could be true or false) What concept
by peteradio 3y ago
1) the rabbit jumped: (not conspiracy, fact could be true or false)
2) jfk was assassinated by the CIA: (conspiracy, fact could be true or false)
What concept are you referring to when you say you don't understand it?
- jMyles 3y agoI took the comment to mean, "the matter of whether something is a conspiracy is unrelated to the fact pattern of the event." I apologize, for that's obviously not what you meant now that I see this comment. But perhaps you can acknowledge that this assertion is pervasive on the internet: that if something is a conspiracy, it is so because of the beliefs of the believers, rather than the fact pattern of the event.
- peteradio 3y agoIf you look at the comment I originally replied to, OP says something like "when does conspiracy become fact". In having a enough conversations about the topic of conspiracy, you realize people are conflating conspiracy as laying(lying?) on the spectrum of likelihood. So when they say "when does conspiracy become fact?" it sounds like our understanding of the topic evolves from being a conspiracy to instead being a fact. Why would the conspiracy aspect vanish into thin air? If it was a conspiracy then now it is a conspiracy with some sort of proof. It appears this bizarre redefinition of the meaning of conspiracy came from its incessant association with the word theory. If OP had instead said "when does conspiracy _theory_ become fact" I would have no qualms with the usage. But its hilarious how there are people on either side of this stupidly generic debate who cannot even properly understand the usage of the word conspiracy.
- jMyles 3y agoAgree in full.