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I wouldn’t mind going to the office if everyone else was also in that same office. I honestly don’t like working remote with people all around the world. Diffe

I wouldn’t mind going to the office if everyone else was also in that same office. I honestly don’t like working remote with people all around the world. Different time zones, people are always out for various holidays, and it’s impossibly hard to coordinate anything significant unless you make sacrifices in your personal life. And everyone is then in that same boat and it sucks equally for everyone involved.

pixelfarmer 3y ago
I will translate: People are mostly incapable of splitting work and do proper communication in environments with high(er) latency. The idea of just throwing stuff "over the fence" so to speak is going to bite you in the rear end in such scenarios, but people pretend there is no difference to having everyone in the same office and then run into a hard wall because reality is saying "hello!"
Ancalagon 3y ago
This really hits the nail on the head for me. My last two companies "globalized" parts of the team to the UK and India. Now the only time that works for everyone is 6 am PST. And now we are still on zoom calls, just at the office instead of at home.
dghlsakjg 3y ago
There's a massive difference between globally distributed and locally distributed. My team is in 4 adjacent timezones (East Coast to Pacific, our home office operates on Central), and it works fine. When I worked in a company that had a Pakistani dev team it was awful (for a variety of reasons, but time zone was a huge one).
- moomoo11 3y ago
  These are fine, but it definitely favors west coast people (I'm on west coast) when most people are on west coast. My east coast colleagues are sometimes pulled into things that go until 6pm their time. Most west coasters start their day around 9am which is east coast lunch, so those folks are usually "fully available" for maybe a 2 hour window. Again, maybe this is fine if a team is just a support team or does something not that meaningful overall. If you're pushing the envelope building new products, ideating, or figuring things out AKA you need a lot of collaboration, you will suffer in personal life in the current model.
helij 3y ago
This is a non-issue if proper processes are in place. You mentioning issues with 'people are always out for various holidays' is a huge red flag. This is where strict processes and respect for other's time comes into place. It can be done. You just landed at a place that doesn't give a damn.

pixelfarmer 3y ago

I will translate: People are mostly incapable of splitting work and do proper communication in environments with high(er) latency. The idea of just throwing stuff "over the fence" so to speak is going to bite you in the rear end in such scenarios, but people pretend there is no difference to having everyone in the same office and then run into a hard wall because reality is saying "hello!"

Ancalagon 3y ago

This really hits the nail on the head for me. My last two companies "globalized" parts of the team to the UK and India. Now the only time that works for everyone is 6 am PST. And now we are still on zoom calls, just at the office instead of at home.

dghlsakjg 3y ago

There's a massive difference between globally distributed and locally distributed. My team is in 4 adjacent timezones (East Coast to Pacific, our home office operates on Central), and it works fine. When I worked in a company that had a Pakistani dev team it was awful (for a variety of reasons, but time zone was a huge one).

moomoo11 3y ago
These are fine, but it definitely favors west coast people (I'm on west coast) when most people are on west coast. My east coast colleagues are sometimes pulled into things that go until 6pm their time. Most west coasters start their day around 9am which is east coast lunch, so those folks are usually "fully available" for maybe a 2 hour window. Again, maybe this is fine if a team is just a support team or does something not that meaningful overall. If you're pushing the envelope building new products, ideating, or figuring things out AKA you need a lot of collaboration, you will suffer in personal life in the current model.

helij 3y ago

This is a non-issue if proper processes are in place. You mentioning issues with 'people are always out for various holidays' is a huge red flag. This is where strict processes and respect for other's time comes into place. It can be done. You just landed at a place that doesn't give a damn.