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How would it work though? If I sign onto the app to say that I'm available for delivery, does that count as "working hours", and the company is required to mak

How would it work though? If I sign onto the app to say that I'm available for delivery, does that count as "working hours", and the company is required to make sure that I make minimum wage, regardless of how many orders are paid out? What if I sign onto the app, but then don't accept any of the deliveries I get offered? Then they'd be required to make sure I get minimum wage, without ever doing any actual work. I do think there's a problem as things stand, but I don't think the solution is a simple one.

kevviiinn 3y ago
I don't know, if you get hired at a factory and show up but refuse to do any actual work how does that go? Termination for refusing to work is a thing
- RHSeeger 3y ago
  But you're not required, as I understand it, to take any of the jobs offered by the various gig work services. Factory work isn't gig work.
Jiro 3y ago
>What if I sign onto the app, but then don't accept any of the deliveries I get offered? Then they'd be required to make sure I get minimum wage, without ever doing any actual work. That's like asking what if you don't do any work at a regular job. If you're not doing any work, they can fire you. Once you've been fired, they don't need to pay you anything whether you're waiting around or not. But until you've been fired, they should be paying you. >But you're not required, as I understand it, to take any of the jobs offered by the various gig work services. There's no contradiction between not being required to take any particular job, and "if you refuse to take 40 jobs in a row, go away". (If the jobs are so bad that most of the workforce will refuse 40 in a row, so the company can't fire them because they'd have no workers, that's the company's fault for having such a poor selection that the workers wait long times. In which case yes, pay them.)
- RHSeeger 3y ago
  > There's no contradiction between not being required to take any particular job, and "if you refuse to take 40 jobs in a row, go away". Ok, so you take _some_ of the jobs, just enough to appear to be working reasonably. And then someone needs to figure out what "some" is. Plus half the point of a gig job is you decide when/what you are willing to work. As noted, I don't believe there is NO solution... I just don't think it's as simple as "well, just require each person gets paid minimum wage". Because there's a lot of things to consider.
  - Jiro 3y ago
    >And then someone needs to figure out what "some" is. Just let the company decide it. It doesn't cause a problem because if the company sets an unreasonably high standard for how many jobs you need to take to not be fired, they'll run out of workers.
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dtech 3y ago
> How would it work though? Like it works for any other work: you get a roster of when you're expected to work and get paid for that time, and perform tasks during this time. This problem has been solved decades if not centuries ago, e.g. factory shifts or supermarket employees.

kevviiinn 3y ago

I don't know, if you get hired at a factory and show up but refuse to do any actual work how does that go? Termination for refusing to work is a thing

RHSeeger 3y ago
But you're not required, as I understand it, to take any of the jobs offered by the various gig work services. Factory work isn't gig work.

Jiro 3y ago

>What if I sign onto the app, but then don't accept any of the deliveries I get offered? Then they'd be required to make sure I get minimum wage, without ever doing any actual work. That's like asking what if you don't do any work at a regular job. If you're not doing any work, they can fire you. Once you've been fired, they don't need to pay you anything whether you're waiting around or not. But until you've been fired, they should be paying you. >But you're not required, as I understand it, to take any of the jobs offered by the various gig work services. There's no contradiction between not being required to take any particular job, and "if you refuse to take 40 jobs in a row, go away". (If the jobs are so bad that most of the workforce will refuse 40 in a row, so the company can't fire them because they'd have no workers, that's the company's fault for having such a poor selection that the workers wait long times. In which case yes, pay them.)

RHSeeger 3y ago
> There's no contradiction between not being required to take any particular job, and "if you refuse to take 40 jobs in a row, go away". Ok, so you take _some_ of the jobs, just enough to appear to be working reasonably. And then someone needs to figure out what "some" is. Plus half the point of a gig job is you decide when/what you are willing to work. As noted, I don't believe there is NO solution... I just don't think it's as simple as "well, just require each person gets paid minimum wage". Because there's a lot of things to consider.
- Jiro 3y ago
  >And then someone needs to figure out what "some" is. Just let the company decide it. It doesn't cause a problem because if the company sets an unreasonably high standard for how many jobs you need to take to not be fired, they'll run out of workers.

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dtech 3y ago

> How would it work though? Like it works for any other work: you get a roster of when you're expected to work and get paid for that time, and perform tasks during this time. This problem has been solved decades if not centuries ago, e.g. factory shifts or supermarket employees.