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Florida did lockdowns right. They flattened the curve and then managed limited social resources. Many other states just went into irrational and indefinite Lo
by arcbyte 3y ago
Florida did lockdowns right.
They flattened the curve and then managed limited social resources.
Many other states just went into irrational and indefinite Long term lockdowns. Illinois for instance was locked down for months and months despite having enourmous hospital capacity - the lack of which was the whole reason for entering the lockdown in the first place. It just didn't make sense after a while except as a political tool.
Early on there was a lot of metrics-driven decision making, and metrics changed as new information came to light. That was good. Florida would still lockdown if done in that light - not without bellyaching but yes it would. When the metrics go out the window so too would Florida's compliance.
- bfung 3y agoThe death rate per capita seems to suggest Florida probably could’ve done better. 20th highest death per capita out of the 50 states. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/covid19_mortality_final/COVID19.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/covid19_mortality_...
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- willcipriano 3y agoDoesn't Florida have lots of elderly people?
- op00to 3y agoAren't elderly people entitled to life?
- willcipriano 3y agoCovid mainly was a threat to life for the elderly. I'd be curious to see a covid death by state chart side by side with the states average age. If Florida has more elderly a middle of the pack performance might be exceptional. If you contrasted nursing home covid deaths to high school covid deaths you'd see high schools "did better", but that probably has nothing to do with policy.
- op00to 3y agoWhat I think you're getting at - and please correct me if I'm wrong - but we should only protect citizens from external health risks greater than the most healthy young adult can bear. If you are disabled, ill, or otherwise more at risk for illnesses, you are not worthy to protect. Certainly not as much as a young adult.
- willcipriano 3y agoAt no point does any of that say that. Really none of what I said is even opinion at all, no idea how you got to that conclusion.
- op00to 3y agoThe initial great, great grandparent comment said something like "Florida had a horrible response to COVID". Your response was to state Florida has more elderly than other states, apparently refuting the fact that Florida's response to COVID was horrible. Why? Because it seems like mostly only old people died. This indicates that adequate precautions were not taken to protect the elderly. The type of trolling you're doing isn't cute.
- pfannkuchen 3y agoFlorida is also a magnet for old people, and old people are a magnet for dying from COVID. I wonder how they did if we control for age?
- op00to 3y agoIs it OK for old people to be culled from time to time? Or should Florida, knowing they had a higher than average number of obese, hypertensive, and elderly people, have done more to protect these vulnerable populations? Control for age, and it just shows how awful Florida's response was.
- detrites 3y agoAnd 7th highest median age, so 20th for deaths per capita for a virus far more lethal by age would be positive performance: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_median_age https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_terr...
- arcbyte 3y agoThere are lots of metrics available to optimize for or use as guidance. The choice of which metrics to pay attention to is a politcal matter. I don't know that any state made it a policy to optimize for a reduced death rate directly. They chose hospitalizations in the early days and then I think metrics disappeared, or only the R value was loosely paid attention to. That's my point. If death rate wasn't a chosen metric then it's irrelevant.