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I am not sure older dev need a specific type of resource to learn new language or skills...

Clubber 3y ago
I was thinking this myself. I'm old and salty and I use the same resources as everyone else.
rlawson 3y ago
Yeah - not thinking tech skills. More along the lines of sometimes it's nice to hash things out with people who are approximately same age/experience level. I love working with younger devs and manage/mentor and appreciate the energy and perspective. But at the same time it's fun to shoot the breeze with someone who lived through the EJB hype in Java land to give a specific example.
- stcroixx 3y ago
  I know exactly what you mean. Younger people almost all actually believe the hype of each fad and don’t realize when they’re reinventing the wheel. If you’re surrounded exclusively with people like this, you’ll go insane. I have no solution, just empathy.
  - JohnFen 3y ago
    > Younger people almost all actually believe the hype of each fad and don’t realize when they’re reinventing the wheel. I find this an almost endless source of amusement.
- JohnFen 3y ago
  Most of my closest friends are also older developers, and we talk shop a lot. Have you accumulated a professional network of colleagues? If so, you might consider adopting a habit of inviting them out to lunch or something every so often, just to shoot the breeze. They may be feeling the same need for casual connection just as you are, and it comes with the benefit of keeping your professional network fresh.
dboreham 3y ago
Same web pages but with ctl-+ pressed a couple times?
- rlawson 3y ago
  Definitely! Also where are my glasses?
  - poulenet 3y ago
    Mine are generally found on top of my head, when not in front of my eyes, as I refuse to get bifocals. We were having a similar discussion on a language compiler group about my excessively off-topic comments. I miss the water cooler and coffee break in person chats from the good old days too. I'm going to bookmark this thread to see if anyone has a solution. I tried creating my own Gitter group, back when you could, but ended up mostly talking to myself, like on dylan-lang/general. Good luck, I hope you find a good place to chat!
- bxparks 3y ago
  Ha, 125% for most things, except HN where I need to use 170%
  - wing-_-nuts 3y ago
    I have a 13" laptop with a 1080p display, which is actually a higher dpi than a 27" 4k display. I have to run at least 150% zoom to be able to see anything. Too bad fractional scaling sucks on linux.
    - necovek 3y ago
      Unfortunately, "pixel-not-a-pixel" and "scaling" won out as approaches, when us greybeards remember being able to choose our font sizes, everything scaling in accordance (or well, at least all the Gtk+ 2 programs did) and X actually reporting the true DPI to software. For laptop and desktop use, I found it immeasurably better. Sure, responsive layouts that work on tiny screens were missing. Still, I find fractional scaling to suck even more on systems other than Linux, and some even make other terrible decisions to drop things like subpixel rendering (looking at you MacOS and all those non-existing 10K 32" retina screens).
jasfi 3y ago
I don't think so either, don't fence yourself off.
- zabzonk 3y ago
  > don't fence yourself off how else am i going to keep those pesky kids off my lawn? but, i agree.
  - necovek 3y ago
    Or in some cases, on my lawn and not out in the street getting ran over by speeding cars driven by others' pesky kids! :)

I was thinking this myself. I'm old and salty and I use the same resources as everyone else.

Yeah - not thinking tech skills. More along the lines of sometimes it's nice to hash things out with people who are approximately same age/experience level. I love working with younger devs and manage/mentor and appreciate the energy and perspective. But at the same time it's fun to shoot the breeze with someone who lived through the EJB hype in Java land to give a specific example.

stcroixx 3y ago
I know exactly what you mean. Younger people almost all actually believe the hype of each fad and don’t realize when they’re reinventing the wheel. If you’re surrounded exclusively with people like this, you’ll go insane. I have no solution, just empathy.
- JohnFen 3y ago
  > Younger people almost all actually believe the hype of each fad and don’t realize when they’re reinventing the wheel. I find this an almost endless source of amusement.
JohnFen 3y ago
Most of my closest friends are also older developers, and we talk shop a lot. Have you accumulated a professional network of colleagues? If so, you might consider adopting a habit of inviting them out to lunch or something every so often, just to shoot the breeze. They may be feeling the same need for casual connection just as you are, and it comes with the benefit of keeping your professional network fresh.

dboreham 3y ago

Same web pages but with ctl-+ pressed a couple times?

rlawson 3y ago
Definitely! Also where are my glasses?
- poulenet 3y ago
  Mine are generally found on top of my head, when not in front of my eyes, as I refuse to get bifocals. We were having a similar discussion on a language compiler group about my excessively off-topic comments. I miss the water cooler and coffee break in person chats from the good old days too. I'm going to bookmark this thread to see if anyone has a solution. I tried creating my own Gitter group, back when you could, but ended up mostly talking to myself, like on dylan-lang/general. Good luck, I hope you find a good place to chat!
bxparks 3y ago
Ha, 125% for most things, except HN where I need to use 170%
- wing-_-nuts 3y ago
  I have a 13" laptop with a 1080p display, which is actually a higher dpi than a 27" 4k display. I have to run at least 150% zoom to be able to see anything. Too bad fractional scaling sucks on linux.
  - necovek 3y ago
    Unfortunately, "pixel-not-a-pixel" and "scaling" won out as approaches, when us greybeards remember being able to choose our font sizes, everything scaling in accordance (or well, at least all the Gtk+ 2 programs did) and X actually reporting the true DPI to software. For laptop and desktop use, I found it immeasurably better. Sure, responsive layouts that work on tiny screens were missing. Still, I find fractional scaling to suck even more on systems other than Linux, and some even make other terrible decisions to drop things like subpixel rendering (looking at you MacOS and all those non-existing 10K 32" retina screens).

jasfi 3y ago

I don't think so either, don't fence yourself off.

zabzonk 3y ago
> don't fence yourself off how else am i going to keep those pesky kids off my lawn? but, i agree.
- necovek 3y ago
  Or in some cases, on my lawn and not out in the street getting ran over by speeding cars driven by others' pesky kids! :)