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Even if that’s the case, which could be possible, it would be nice to have some accountability for the accident that led to the covid pandemic and lockdowns, an

Even if that’s the case, which could be possible, it would be nice to have some accountability for the accident that led to the covid pandemic and lockdowns, and a transparent accounting of why even after all that, the risk from not doing this research is greater than that of restarting it

eli 4y ago
The evidence for the lab leak theory is weak. You're assuming facts that most experts dispute.
- laverya 4y ago
  The evidence for every other theory is even weaker by any objective standard, though. EDIT: the evidence in favor of wet market zoonosis is what, exactly? "It's always been zoonosis in the past" plus "we (claim to have) first found this in a wet market" and maybe also "there's some RNA fragments in the wet market samples that show interesting animals plus covid"? As far as I'm aware that's it.
- jonhohle 4y ago
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  - eli 4y ago
    No, I mean a majority of all experts around the world. And I don't find it particularly damning that the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases was involved in the commission of one of many studies to determine the origin of an infectious disease.
    - jonhohle 4y ago
      Having the primary author not attach their name to the paper that they’ve secretly been asked to write and disseminate is typical?
      - eli 4y ago
        Was this the most damning fact uncovered by the House investigation into this report? That there was a researcher working on it who wasn't properly credited? That in itself doesn't seem like reason to discard the report, let alone to reach the opposite conclusion. And of course there has been subsequent research by independent scientists who also reached the conclusion that a zoonotic origin is most likely. I'm not saying the lab leak theory has been conclusively disproved -- it hasn't -- but certainly neither has the wildlife theory.
  - baja_blast 4y ago
    I bet Eli would only listen to Boeing executives and engineers directly tied to the Boeing 737 MAX' opinions on what caused the crash and how safe the systems are. Everyone else that disagrees is not and expert, only trust Boeing executives with extreme COI!
    - eli 4y ago
      Who are the unbiased truth tellers here? House Republicans?

eli 4y ago

The evidence for the lab leak theory is weak. You're assuming facts that most experts dispute.

laverya 4y ago
The evidence for every other theory is even weaker by any objective standard, though. EDIT: the evidence in favor of wet market zoonosis is what, exactly? "It's always been zoonosis in the past" plus "we (claim to have) first found this in a wet market" and maybe also "there's some RNA fragments in the wet market samples that show interesting animals plus covid"? As far as I'm aware that's it.
jonhohle 4y ago
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- eli 4y ago
  No, I mean a majority of all experts around the world. And I don't find it particularly damning that the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases was involved in the commission of one of many studies to determine the origin of an infectious disease.
  - jonhohle 4y ago
    Having the primary author not attach their name to the paper that they’ve secretly been asked to write and disseminate is typical?
    - eli 4y ago
      Was this the most damning fact uncovered by the House investigation into this report? That there was a researcher working on it who wasn't properly credited? That in itself doesn't seem like reason to discard the report, let alone to reach the opposite conclusion. And of course there has been subsequent research by independent scientists who also reached the conclusion that a zoonotic origin is most likely. I'm not saying the lab leak theory has been conclusively disproved -- it hasn't -- but certainly neither has the wildlife theory.
- baja_blast 4y ago
  I bet Eli would only listen to Boeing executives and engineers directly tied to the Boeing 737 MAX' opinions on what caused the crash and how safe the systems are. Everyone else that disagrees is not and expert, only trust Boeing executives with extreme COI!
  - eli 4y ago
    Who are the unbiased truth tellers here? House Republicans?