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>When is this nonsensical tribalism going to end? Where are all the non-tribal people who are evaluating this stuff on facts and information alone? Why do we he
by pydry 4y ago
>When is this nonsensical tribalism going to end? Where are all the non-tribal people who are evaluating this stuff on facts and information alone? Why do we hear from the self-disqualifying tribalists?
Remember when anthropogenic global warming denial was mainstream? For MANY MANY years after the scientific evidence was completely undeniable.
Appeals to moderation were everywhere. The media would routinely play deniers with the scientific credentials of a ferret against actual scientists to maintain the appearance of balance and neutrality and claim it was an even debate.
Believers in global warming got filed into a tribe (still are, in many ways) hence they got "instant disqualification" from appeal-to-moderates like yourself who craved the fake balance the media served up.
Those people were almost as bad as the denialists. They werent at all interested in the truth - just some kind of social "balance" or harmony.
- robertlagrant 4y agoThe only logical fallacy is you thinking that people changing their minds as more evidence came along is now a reason to attack people who disagree with you on any topic now. I'm not appealing to moderates, or to anyone. I'm appealing to reason, as opposed to tribalism. You are citing the hurt of a tribe you have decided exists as a group to hurt, and justifying talking badly to other people who you imagine are in another tribe is, well, tribalism. Just stop and we can all have a useful discussion.
- mitigating 4y agoThe parent said "For MANY MANY years after the scientific evidence was completely undeniable". Maybe he's saying that both sides aren't equally valid and taking their opinions as soon is a waste of resources.
- robertlagrant 4y agoI'm not saying both sides are valid, nor about taking opinions. Where are you getting this? I'm saying stop thinking in terms of sides, and just present reasoned positions. Why is this so hard to grasp?
- pydry 4y agoI did present reasoned positions. You just looked past them as your anger welled up. For me the jabs were about skewering repetitive propaganda from staggeringly wealthy lobby groups with deafening megaphones that emerges from the mouths of the easily duped. I want to make sure that the easily duped felt seen.