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I really thought that Bing + OpenAI could take a slice out of Google, but this looks very competitive (based on the slick marketing video). And it's all Google

I really thought that Bing + OpenAI could take a slice out of Google, but this looks very competitive (based on the slick marketing video). And it's all Google's own tech unlike the Microsoft deal.

guardian5x 3y ago
Well, DeepMind was acquired by Google. And Microsoft has made a big investment into OpenAI. Does it really matter if it is their own tech, or of its an acquisition, or if they hired people to make it?
- pphysch 3y ago
  It probably doesn't matter from a technical angle, but I speculate that Microsoft didn't properly acquire OpenAI because the former was concerned about reputational risk should ChatGPT or some other cutting-edge AI mass-product blow up in some way (and the awkward optics of "Open"AI becoming a M$ IP). And it's pretty clear (from their own words) that regard for that risk held Google back in aggressively releasing such products. Now that this phase is over, I expect MS to fully acquire OpenAI to better signal that they are committed to full-spectrum AI products, as Google is doing this week.
  - aetherane 3y ago
    Can OpenAI even be acquired? It is a subsidiary of a nonprofit
nailer 3y ago
As of today, Microsoft has released OpenAI to everyone right on bing.com. Google still hasn't released Bard to the general public on google.com. As of today, Microsoft has GitHub copilot in VScode and a bunch of other editors. Google Companion isn't released. If Google were capable, and wanted to respond to Microsoft robustly, I would have expected both of these to be available right now immediately after Google I/O. Instead neither have happened. I expect Google's decline into irrelevance to continue.
- FemmeAndroid 3y ago
  Wasn't Bard released publicly yesterday? I think it requires a login, and is still labeled as experimental, but is now available to anyone. https://bard.google.com https://bard.google.com Edit: The comment I was replying to appears to have edited their comment to make this one no longer relevant.
  - nailer 3y ago
    I did indeed, not in response to your comment, but to clarify that 'released' means on the search engine like their competitor has done, rather than a test URL.
  - marketingLizard 3y ago
    [flagged]
  - shever73 3y ago
    Not quite anyone...I get the "Bard isn't supported in your country" message when trying it.

I really thought that Bing + OpenAI could take a slice out of Google, but this looks very competitive (based on the slick marketing video). And it's all Google's own tech unlike the Microsoft deal.

guardian5x 3y ago

Well, DeepMind was acquired by Google. And Microsoft has made a big investment into OpenAI. Does it really matter if it is their own tech, or of its an acquisition, or if they hired people to make it?

pphysch 3y ago
It probably doesn't matter from a technical angle, but I speculate that Microsoft didn't properly acquire OpenAI because the former was concerned about reputational risk should ChatGPT or some other cutting-edge AI mass-product blow up in some way (and the awkward optics of "Open"AI becoming a M$ IP). And it's pretty clear (from their own words) that regard for that risk held Google back in aggressively releasing such products. Now that this phase is over, I expect MS to fully acquire OpenAI to better signal that they are committed to full-spectrum AI products, as Google is doing this week.
- aetherane 3y ago
  Can OpenAI even be acquired? It is a subsidiary of a nonprofit

nailer 3y ago

As of today, Microsoft has released OpenAI to everyone right on bing.com. Google still hasn't released Bard to the general public on google.com. As of today, Microsoft has GitHub copilot in VScode and a bunch of other editors. Google Companion isn't released. If Google were capable, and wanted to respond to Microsoft robustly, I would have expected both of these to be available right now immediately after Google I/O. Instead neither have happened. I expect Google's decline into irrelevance to continue.

FemmeAndroid 3y ago
Wasn't Bard released publicly yesterday? I think it requires a login, and is still labeled as experimental, but is now available to anyone. https://bard.google.com https://bard.google.com Edit: The comment I was replying to appears to have edited their comment to make this one no longer relevant.
- nailer 3y ago
  I did indeed, not in response to your comment, but to clarify that 'released' means on the search engine like their competitor has done, rather than a test URL.
- marketingLizard 3y ago
  [flagged]
- shever73 3y ago
  Not quite anyone...I get the "Bard isn't supported in your country" message when trying it.