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You're right that DKMS is fairly easy (at least until you enable secure boot). > Even minor ones, 6.2.13 IIRC broke it, whereas 6.2.12 was fine. Interesting!

by orra 3y ago

You're right that DKMS is fairly easy (at least until you enable secure boot). > Even minor ones, 6.2.13 IIRC broke it, whereas 6.2.12 was fine. Interesting! It's just a shame the license has hindered adoption. Ubuntu were shipping binary ZFS modules at one point, but they have walked back from that.

vladvasiliu 3y ago
> You're right that DKMS is fairly easy (at least until you enable secure boot). Still easy. Under Arch, the kernel image isn't signed, so if you enable secure boot you need to fiddle with signing on your own. At that point, you can just sign the kernel once the module is built. Works fine for me.
mustache_kimono 3y ago
> Ubuntu were shipping binary ZFS modules at one point, but they have walked back from that. This is incorrect? Ubuntu is still shipping binary modules.
- orra 3y ago
  Right, but various things point to ZFS being de facto deprecated: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2023/01/ubuntu-zfs-support-status https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2023/01/ubuntu-zfs-support-statu...
  - mustache_kimono 3y ago
    > various things point to ZFS being de facto deprecated I'm not sure that's the case? Your link points to the ZFS on root install being deprecated on the desktop. I'm not sure what inference you/we can draw from that considering ZFS is a major component to LXD, and Ubuntu and Linux's sweet spot is as a server OS. > Ubuntu were shipping binary ZFS modules at one point, but they have walked back from that. Not to be persnickety, but this was your claim, and Ubuntu is still shipping ZFS binary modules on all it's current releases.
    - orra 3y ago
      Yeah, my wording was clumsy, but thanks for assuming good faith. I essentially meant their enthusiasm had wained. It's good you can give reasons ZFS is still important to Ubuntu on the server, although as a desktop user I'm sad nobody wants to ship ZFS for the desktop.

by orra 3y ago

vladvasiliu 3y ago

> You're right that DKMS is fairly easy (at least until you enable secure boot). Still easy. Under Arch, the kernel image isn't signed, so if you enable secure boot you need to fiddle with signing on your own. At that point, you can just sign the kernel once the module is built. Works fine for me.

mustache_kimono 3y ago

> Ubuntu were shipping binary ZFS modules at one point, but they have walked back from that. This is incorrect? Ubuntu is still shipping binary modules.

orra 3y ago
Right, but various things point to ZFS being de facto deprecated: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2023/01/ubuntu-zfs-support-status https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2023/01/ubuntu-zfs-support-statu...
- mustache_kimono 3y ago
  > various things point to ZFS being de facto deprecated I'm not sure that's the case? Your link points to the ZFS on root install being deprecated on the desktop. I'm not sure what inference you/we can draw from that considering ZFS is a major component to LXD, and Ubuntu and Linux's sweet spot is as a server OS. > Ubuntu were shipping binary ZFS modules at one point, but they have walked back from that. Not to be persnickety, but this was your claim, and Ubuntu is still shipping ZFS binary modules on all it's current releases.
  - orra 3y ago
    Yeah, my wording was clumsy, but thanks for assuming good faith. I essentially meant their enthusiasm had wained. It's good you can give reasons ZFS is still important to Ubuntu on the server, although as a desktop user I'm sad nobody wants to ship ZFS for the desktop.