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The "blue collar" crowd shifted to python/ruby/php a long time ago.

• pron 15y ago
  For web apps, maybe. I often find it surprising to learn how unfamiliar web programmers are with the vast amount of non-web programming out there. And even in the web world, almost all heavy-duty middleware is JVM (or, sometimes, C++) based (see twitter, tumblr, Google, Facebook etc.)
  • thebluesky 15y ago
    It's a bit of a stretch to describe Google, Facebook and Twitter's engineers as "blue collar". Sophisticated middleware is hardly a blue collar domain, definitely more "white collar".
    • pron 15y ago
      Yeah, you got a point there :) Nevertheless, there's lots of blue-collar programming done in Java in the enterprise world. Much, much more than Ruby/python/PHP.