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Pop music contains 10^5 or so versions of “I love you”. I think there could be a similar number for writing.

by tlb 3y ago

passion__desire 3y ago
On what metrics are you judging them to be different?
- tlb 3y ago
  For pop songs, the fact that rights holders haven't been able to sue for copyright infringement (except occasionally). Owners of song rights are pretty effective at noticing if your song has too many words or notes in common with an existing song. You might prefer a different definition of "different", but it'd take a lot of work to figure out how many there are by any other definition.
passion__desire 3y ago
Here's GRRM version. I asked it to include the "colorless green ideas". "In the labyrinthine corridors of my imagination, writing holds the key to an irresistible enchantment. The kaleidoscopic play of words, as they dance across the parchment, is a spectacle that never ceases to enthrall me. The very act of crafting sentences, like a blacksmith hammering out the perfect sword, is a symphony of creation whose composition and cadence resonate deeply within the chambers of my soul. The allure is in the unpredictable: the malleability of vocabulary, the rhythm of repetition, the literary waltz that ties it all together in a mesmerizing ballet of ideas. Yes, by the gods, I love writing. And it's not merely an affection, but an unyielding obsession, a raw and passionate love that fuels my every heartbeat. Those colorless green ideas that sleep furiously in the hidden corners of the mind, they are the unexpected treasures waiting to be awakened, ignited by the quill's touch. They may seem paradoxical, absurd even, like a dragon in the heart of winter, yet it's their very improbability that breathes vitality into the narrative. In this wonderful, maddening craft, we, the storytellers, find our joy, our purpose. The written word is our battleground and our sanctuary, our curse and our solace. Most people I know, they also fucking love writing, and I do mean love. A love profound and all-consuming, fervent and relentless. A love as fierce as a direwolf, as enduring as the Wall. And so we write, for in the tumultuous seas of letters and punctuation, we find our truest selves."
- hammyhavoc 3y ago
  Both your original version, and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35898426 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35898426, and the new one you did, include this idea of dancing quite strongly. How did "Most people I know, they also fucking love writing" get into that? What prompt did you give it?
  - passion__desire 3y ago
    Please write a paragraph from the point of view of thinker, writer, storyteller like George R R Martin who loves to enthusiastically express why he loves "writing" Make sure to give lot of importance to Composition, cadence, vocabulary, repetition. It should all tie in together. Also make sure to include phrase "Colorless green ideas sleep furiously" coined by Noam Chomsky in the most meaningful, appropriate, contextual way. It shouldn't be used carelessly. "I fucking love writing. Most people I know also fucking love writing, and I do mean love."
    - hammyhavoc 3y ago
      On the one hand, very interesting at a technical level. However, on the other, it's cheesy, horribly unoriginal and bland in its output, and that doesn't just apply to just this example. Nothing I've seen from an LLM thus far would be winning any awards or get recommended by a critic. Structure-wise, the output is generally very formulaic, even with additional descriptors.
      - jjk166 3y ago
        > Nothing I've seen from an LLM thus far would be winning any awards or get recommended by a critic. What paragraph have you written that won awards or was recommended by a critic? I have none to my name. These are tools whose goal is not to produce something superior to what any human could ever write, it is useful merely to improve upon what a typical person would write.
        3y ago

Pop music contains 10^5 or so versions of “I love you”. I think there could be a similar number for writing.

by tlb 3y ago

Pop music contains 10^5 or so versions of “I love you”. I think there could be a similar number for writing.

passion__desire 3y ago

On what metrics are you judging them to be different?

tlb 3y ago
For pop songs, the fact that rights holders haven't been able to sue for copyright infringement (except occasionally). Owners of song rights are pretty effective at noticing if your song has too many words or notes in common with an existing song. You might prefer a different definition of "different", but it'd take a lot of work to figure out how many there are by any other definition.

passion__desire 3y ago

Here's GRRM version. I asked it to include the "colorless green ideas". "In the labyrinthine corridors of my imagination, writing holds the key to an irresistible enchantment. The kaleidoscopic play of words, as they dance across the parchment, is a spectacle that never ceases to enthrall me. The very act of crafting sentences, like a blacksmith hammering out the perfect sword, is a symphony of creation whose composition and cadence resonate deeply within the chambers of my soul. The allure is in the unpredictable: the malleability of vocabulary, the rhythm of repetition, the literary waltz that ties it all together in a mesmerizing ballet of ideas. Yes, by the gods, I love writing. And it's not merely an affection, but an unyielding obsession, a raw and passionate love that fuels my every heartbeat. Those colorless green ideas that sleep furiously in the hidden corners of the mind, they are the unexpected treasures waiting to be awakened, ignited by the quill's touch. They may seem paradoxical, absurd even, like a dragon in the heart of winter, yet it's their very improbability that breathes vitality into the narrative. In this wonderful, maddening craft, we, the storytellers, find our joy, our purpose. The written word is our battleground and our sanctuary, our curse and our solace. Most people I know, they also fucking love writing, and I do mean love. A love profound and all-consuming, fervent and relentless. A love as fierce as a direwolf, as enduring as the Wall. And so we write, for in the tumultuous seas of letters and punctuation, we find our truest selves."

hammyhavoc 3y ago
Both your original version, and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35898426 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35898426, and the new one you did, include this idea of dancing quite strongly. How did "Most people I know, they also fucking love writing" get into that? What prompt did you give it?
- passion__desire 3y ago
  Please write a paragraph from the point of view of thinker, writer, storyteller like George R R Martin who loves to enthusiastically express why he loves "writing" Make sure to give lot of importance to Composition, cadence, vocabulary, repetition. It should all tie in together. Also make sure to include phrase "Colorless green ideas sleep furiously" coined by Noam Chomsky in the most meaningful, appropriate, contextual way. It shouldn't be used carelessly. "I fucking love writing. Most people I know also fucking love writing, and I do mean love."
  - hammyhavoc 3y ago
    On the one hand, very interesting at a technical level. However, on the other, it's cheesy, horribly unoriginal and bland in its output, and that doesn't just apply to just this example. Nothing I've seen from an LLM thus far would be winning any awards or get recommended by a critic. Structure-wise, the output is generally very formulaic, even with additional descriptors.
    - jjk166 3y ago
      > Nothing I've seen from an LLM thus far would be winning any awards or get recommended by a critic. What paragraph have you written that won awards or was recommended by a critic? I have none to my name. These are tools whose goal is not to produce something superior to what any human could ever write, it is useful merely to improve upon what a typical person would write.
      - 3y ago