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> It can handle more than 500,000 orders per month Hilarious because other languages are capable of that per minute not per month

cntrl 3y ago
500,000 orders per minute on a $6/month server? Which language is able to achieve that?
- zer0tonin 3y ago
  Go
  - cutler 3y ago
    If you're going to pull numbers out of a hat at least provide some evidence, especially evidence based on a comparable workload.
    - zer0tonin 3y ago
      I actually wrote a whole article about this myself: https://alicegg.tech/2023/02/06/4dollar-vps.html https://alicegg.tech/2023/02/06/4dollar-vps.html TL;DR: go can handle 1000+ RPS on a ridiculously small server
      - tredre3 3y ago
        But creating an order isn't just a request. PHP will also handle 1000 RPS of hello world just fine on a 4 dollars VPS. Maybe (probably) Go is still faster than PHP, but the hyperbole is being pushed a bit too far here.
  - 00deadbeef 3y ago
    And what about the database?
MarvinYork 3y ago
I think the point was the $6/month server here.
alexriddle 3y ago
What stack can handle 500,000 orders per minute - 22.3 billion a month - on a $6/month server?
- callahad 3y ago
  Most of them? 500k per minute is around 8k reqs/sec. $6 will get you 2 vCPU, so each CPU only needs to handle 4k requests per second. I'd at least expect that to be possible in Node, and would be somewhat surprised if a Go or Rust framework didn't hit that mark.
  - cutler 3y ago
    Maybe with "Hello world" in Node but not orders. Business-grade Rust web framework? Give me a break.
  - jeroenhd 3y ago
    I think 4k requests per second is quite ambitious even for native languages or garbage collected languages like Go. Hello world will work, but once parsing, validation, and database queries get involved, you'll need some beefier hardware to get those numbers. I can't get the cloud benchmarks for 2022 to work (a dedicated PowerEdge is the standard physical benchmark and that's not very realistic here), but according to these benchmarks: https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/#section=data-r20&hw=cl&test=update https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/#section=data-r20&hw=... you're going to need some very optimized code to get close to 8k reqs/s.
    - marcus_holmes 3y ago
      OK, 10 minutes then ;) My point was that the article quotes orders per month, while other systems are quoting requests per second. I found it funny that they tried to mask the low speed by using big numbers.
hakube 3y ago
on a $6/month server. Are we also losing the ability to read now because of AI?

cntrl 3y ago

500,000 orders per minute on a $6/month server? Which language is able to achieve that?

zer0tonin 3y ago
Go
- cutler 3y ago
  If you're going to pull numbers out of a hat at least provide some evidence, especially evidence based on a comparable workload.
  - zer0tonin 3y ago
    I actually wrote a whole article about this myself: https://alicegg.tech/2023/02/06/4dollar-vps.html https://alicegg.tech/2023/02/06/4dollar-vps.html TL;DR: go can handle 1000+ RPS on a ridiculously small server
    - tredre3 3y ago
      But creating an order isn't just a request. PHP will also handle 1000 RPS of hello world just fine on a 4 dollars VPS. Maybe (probably) Go is still faster than PHP, but the hyperbole is being pushed a bit too far here.
- 00deadbeef 3y ago
  And what about the database?

MarvinYork 3y ago

I think the point was the $6/month server here.

alexriddle 3y ago

What stack can handle 500,000 orders per minute - 22.3 billion a month - on a $6/month server?

callahad 3y ago
Most of them? 500k per minute is around 8k reqs/sec. $6 will get you 2 vCPU, so each CPU only needs to handle 4k requests per second. I'd at least expect that to be possible in Node, and would be somewhat surprised if a Go or Rust framework didn't hit that mark.
- cutler 3y ago
  Maybe with "Hello world" in Node but not orders. Business-grade Rust web framework? Give me a break.
- jeroenhd 3y ago
  I think 4k requests per second is quite ambitious even for native languages or garbage collected languages like Go. Hello world will work, but once parsing, validation, and database queries get involved, you'll need some beefier hardware to get those numbers. I can't get the cloud benchmarks for 2022 to work (a dedicated PowerEdge is the standard physical benchmark and that's not very realistic here), but according to these benchmarks: https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/#section=data-r20&hw=cl&test=update https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/#section=data-r20&hw=... you're going to need some very optimized code to get close to 8k reqs/s.
  - marcus_holmes 3y ago
    OK, 10 minutes then ;) My point was that the article quotes orders per month, while other systems are quoting requests per second. I found it funny that they tried to mask the low speed by using big numbers.

hakube 3y ago

on a $6/month server. Are we also losing the ability to read now because of AI?