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I asked GPT-4 to write in style of Alan Watts. "Indeed, I find an intoxicating exuberance in writing, a passion that's as profound as it is poignant. It's akin

I asked GPT-4 to write in style of Alan Watts. "Indeed, I find an intoxicating exuberance in writing, a passion that's as profound as it is poignant. It's akin to dancing with words, a ballet of ideas and sentiments, pirouetting across the stage of one's imagination. There's a rhythm, a cadence to it, a harmonious symphony of phrases and thoughts that, when assembled with care and cunning, can stir the soul and ignite the mind. I don't just love writing, I am fervently, ardently, unabashedly in love with it. The artistry of it, the texture and tone of each word, each sentence; the way they flow, ebb and surge like the ocean's tide. There's a divine repetition in the crafting, a reiteration of thoughts, feelings, experiences, each time subtly different, each time uniquely enlightening. Writing is my symphony, my ballet, my ocean, my universe. It is in the weaving of words, the crafting of tales, the elucidation of the esoteric, that I truly come alive. It's not merely that I love writing; writing, my dear friend, is the very essence of my love."

hammyhavoc 3y ago
Looks very similar to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35898426 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35898426
- passion__desire 3y ago
  In how many different ways can a simple phrase "I love writing" can be expanded so that the variations don't resemble each other?
  - tlb 3y ago
    Pop music contains 10^5 or so versions of “I love you”. I think there could be a similar number for writing.
    - passion__desire 3y ago
      On what metrics are you judging them to be different?
      - tlb 3y ago
        For pop songs, the fact that rights holders haven't been able to sue for copyright infringement (except occasionally). Owners of song rights are pretty effective at noticing if your song has too many words or notes in common with an existing song. You might prefer a different definition of "different", but it'd take a lot of work to figure out how many there are by any other definition.
    - passion__desire 3y ago
      Here's GRRM version. I asked it to include the "colorless green ideas". "In the labyrinthine corridors of my imagination, writing holds the key to an irresistible enchantment. The kaleidoscopic play of words, as they dance across the parchment, is a spectacle that never ceases to enthrall me. The very act of crafting sentences, like a blacksmith hammering out the perfect sword, is a symphony of creation whose composition and cadence resonate deeply within the chambers of my soul. The allure is in the unpredictable: the malleability of vocabulary, the rhythm of repetition, the literary waltz that ties it all together in a mesmerizing ballet of ideas. Yes, by the gods, I love writing. And it's not merely an affection, but an unyielding obsession, a raw and passionate love that fuels my every heartbeat. Those colorless green ideas that sleep furiously in the hidden corners of the mind, they are the unexpected treasures waiting to be awakened, ignited by the quill's touch. They may seem paradoxical, absurd even, like a dragon in the heart of winter, yet it's their very improbability that breathes vitality into the narrative. In this wonderful, maddening craft, we, the storytellers, find our joy, our purpose. The written word is our battleground and our sanctuary, our curse and our solace. Most people I know, they also fucking love writing, and I do mean love. A love profound and all-consuming, fervent and relentless. A love as fierce as a direwolf, as enduring as the Wall. And so we write, for in the tumultuous seas of letters and punctuation, we find our truest selves."
      - hammyhavoc 3y ago
        Both your original version, and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35898426 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35898426, and the new one you did, include this idea of dancing quite strongly. How did "Most people I know, they also fucking love writing" get into that? What prompt did you give it?
        passion__desire 3y ago
        Please write a paragraph from the point of view of thinker, writer, storyteller like George R R Martin who loves to enthusiastically express why he loves "writing" Make sure to give lot of importance to Composition, cadence, vocabulary, repetition. It should all tie in together. Also make sure to include phrase "Colorless green ideas sleep furiously" coined by Noam Chomsky in the most meaningful, appropriate, contextual way. It shouldn't be used carelessly. "I fucking love writing. Most people I know also fucking love writing, and I do mean love."
  - hammyhavoc 3y ago
    Personally, I could probably hand write a book of paragraphs, all very distinct and different to each other, you likely wouldn't even know they were by the same author if you didn't use stylometry ML, and you'd probably have a rough time if I used adversarial stylometry to counter that. You'd think by this point that music would have all been done too, but people keep finding novel stuff in 12TET, 4/4 and sound design. That's without even getting into other time signatures, scales and microtonality.
    - passion__desire 3y ago
      Can't you specifically ask LLM to tailor the paragraph to produce those variations that you will incorporate to make your own writing different each time? Most of the criticism of LLM not being able to produce something is just people asking LLM to basically MIND-READ the exact thing they had in mind.
      - hammyhavoc 3y ago
        Well, can't anybody else just tell it the same prompt? The output is generic and samey between all users because the average human being enters the average prompt, thus getting the average output from the training data of statistical averages because it's a next-word prediction model. If I run a writing workshop and tell a room of a hundred people to write me a story about two star-crossed lovers from different time periods, the likelihood of them writing the same thing in the same way is extremely low statistically speaking. If the week after I then give that same room of people the same exercise, they will write something different again, even if the core story that's being told is the same thing. That's because human brains aren't static, and they don't store information as binary values, the "data" is abstract and chemically gradient. That's without even accounting for mood, the general zeitgeist, and what they've been through since then, and not even getting into them entertaining themselves by changing it up or learning from the previous one. Long-form consistency also isn't something LLMs do well with.
  - whoami_nr 3y ago
    Maybe then, you will like playing this game based on GPT: https://gpt.43z.one/ https://gpt.43z.one/

hammyhavoc 3y ago

Looks very similar to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35898426 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35898426

passion__desire 3y ago
In how many different ways can a simple phrase "I love writing" can be expanded so that the variations don't resemble each other?
- tlb 3y ago
  Pop music contains 10^5 or so versions of “I love you”. I think there could be a similar number for writing.
  - passion__desire 3y ago
    On what metrics are you judging them to be different?
    - tlb 3y ago
      For pop songs, the fact that rights holders haven't been able to sue for copyright infringement (except occasionally). Owners of song rights are pretty effective at noticing if your song has too many words or notes in common with an existing song. You might prefer a different definition of "different", but it'd take a lot of work to figure out how many there are by any other definition.
  - passion__desire 3y ago
    Here's GRRM version. I asked it to include the "colorless green ideas". "In the labyrinthine corridors of my imagination, writing holds the key to an irresistible enchantment. The kaleidoscopic play of words, as they dance across the parchment, is a spectacle that never ceases to enthrall me. The very act of crafting sentences, like a blacksmith hammering out the perfect sword, is a symphony of creation whose composition and cadence resonate deeply within the chambers of my soul. The allure is in the unpredictable: the malleability of vocabulary, the rhythm of repetition, the literary waltz that ties it all together in a mesmerizing ballet of ideas. Yes, by the gods, I love writing. And it's not merely an affection, but an unyielding obsession, a raw and passionate love that fuels my every heartbeat. Those colorless green ideas that sleep furiously in the hidden corners of the mind, they are the unexpected treasures waiting to be awakened, ignited by the quill's touch. They may seem paradoxical, absurd even, like a dragon in the heart of winter, yet it's their very improbability that breathes vitality into the narrative. In this wonderful, maddening craft, we, the storytellers, find our joy, our purpose. The written word is our battleground and our sanctuary, our curse and our solace. Most people I know, they also fucking love writing, and I do mean love. A love profound and all-consuming, fervent and relentless. A love as fierce as a direwolf, as enduring as the Wall. And so we write, for in the tumultuous seas of letters and punctuation, we find our truest selves."
    - hammyhavoc 3y ago
      Both your original version, and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35898426 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35898426, and the new one you did, include this idea of dancing quite strongly. How did "Most people I know, they also fucking love writing" get into that? What prompt did you give it?
      - passion__desire 3y ago
        Please write a paragraph from the point of view of thinker, writer, storyteller like George R R Martin who loves to enthusiastically express why he loves "writing" Make sure to give lot of importance to Composition, cadence, vocabulary, repetition. It should all tie in together. Also make sure to include phrase "Colorless green ideas sleep furiously" coined by Noam Chomsky in the most meaningful, appropriate, contextual way. It shouldn't be used carelessly. "I fucking love writing. Most people I know also fucking love writing, and I do mean love."
- hammyhavoc 3y ago
  Personally, I could probably hand write a book of paragraphs, all very distinct and different to each other, you likely wouldn't even know they were by the same author if you didn't use stylometry ML, and you'd probably have a rough time if I used adversarial stylometry to counter that. You'd think by this point that music would have all been done too, but people keep finding novel stuff in 12TET, 4/4 and sound design. That's without even getting into other time signatures, scales and microtonality.
  - passion__desire 3y ago
    Can't you specifically ask LLM to tailor the paragraph to produce those variations that you will incorporate to make your own writing different each time? Most of the criticism of LLM not being able to produce something is just people asking LLM to basically MIND-READ the exact thing they had in mind.
    - hammyhavoc 3y ago
      Well, can't anybody else just tell it the same prompt? The output is generic and samey between all users because the average human being enters the average prompt, thus getting the average output from the training data of statistical averages because it's a next-word prediction model. If I run a writing workshop and tell a room of a hundred people to write me a story about two star-crossed lovers from different time periods, the likelihood of them writing the same thing in the same way is extremely low statistically speaking. If the week after I then give that same room of people the same exercise, they will write something different again, even if the core story that's being told is the same thing. That's because human brains aren't static, and they don't store information as binary values, the "data" is abstract and chemically gradient. That's without even accounting for mood, the general zeitgeist, and what they've been through since then, and not even getting into them entertaining themselves by changing it up or learning from the previous one. Long-form consistency also isn't something LLMs do well with.
- whoami_nr 3y ago
  Maybe then, you will like playing this game based on GPT: https://gpt.43z.one/ https://gpt.43z.one/