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We can all easily recognize lower IQ-levels. But anything higher than our own is an abstraction and if used against me an insult. Except in Software Engineerin

We can all easily recognize lower IQ-levels. But anything higher than our own is an abstraction and if used against me an insult. Except in Software Engineering. One day you just realize, that some fucking dude can see the problem and its solution much better and faster. And you realize there is nothing you can do, except fake the comprehension and use fancy words.

fzeroracer 3y ago
This has nothing to do with IQ. IQ itself means nothing other than you manage to score higher on an IQ test relative to others who take the same test. The problem is (and as the article points out) that this doesn't actually measure anything about your intelligence or problem solving abilities. It's in a sense the same way getting As in college tells you that they are a good student, but only correlates with other factors. Einstein was a B+ student in college but obviously wasn't a B+ physicist.
- timonoko 3y ago
  Feel free to use any two letter acronyms for those perceived qualities. GD for General Dumbiness might be good, because it recognizes the subjectiveness of the measure.
- tonymillion 3y ago
  Maybe he was a B+ physicist and we’ve just never heard from a A- physicist yet…
- MagicMoonlight 3y ago
  It’s literally a problem solving test. It doesn’t require existing knowledge so it’s the only test which actually is based just on intelligence. You can’t memorise quick problem solving.
  - bionsystem 3y ago
    It isn't true that it doesn't require existing knowledge. A lot of it is either pattern recognition, or group theory. Both can be learned about / trained for.
    - MichaelZuo 3y ago
      No, tests such as Raven's progressive matrices, which is the predominant method nowadays, don't require any more knowledge then what a normal baby is born with. They were in fact designed to avoid the testing problems arising from varying cultures, prior knowledge, etc...
- HDThoreaun 3y ago
  > IQ itself means nothing other than you manage to score higher on an IQ test relative to others who take the same test. This has been proven again and again to not be true. IQ is highly correlated with many measures of success, it absolutely mean something other than just your ability to score well on the test.

fzeroracer 3y ago

This has nothing to do with IQ. IQ itself means nothing other than you manage to score higher on an IQ test relative to others who take the same test. The problem is (and as the article points out) that this doesn't actually measure anything about your intelligence or problem solving abilities. It's in a sense the same way getting As in college tells you that they are a good student, but only correlates with other factors. Einstein was a B+ student in college but obviously wasn't a B+ physicist.

timonoko 3y ago
Feel free to use any two letter acronyms for those perceived qualities. GD for General Dumbiness might be good, because it recognizes the subjectiveness of the measure.
tonymillion 3y ago
Maybe he was a B+ physicist and we’ve just never heard from a A- physicist yet…
MagicMoonlight 3y ago
It’s literally a problem solving test. It doesn’t require existing knowledge so it’s the only test which actually is based just on intelligence. You can’t memorise quick problem solving.
- bionsystem 3y ago
  It isn't true that it doesn't require existing knowledge. A lot of it is either pattern recognition, or group theory. Both can be learned about / trained for.
  - MichaelZuo 3y ago
    No, tests such as Raven's progressive matrices, which is the predominant method nowadays, don't require any more knowledge then what a normal baby is born with. They were in fact designed to avoid the testing problems arising from varying cultures, prior knowledge, etc...
HDThoreaun 3y ago
> IQ itself means nothing other than you manage to score higher on an IQ test relative to others who take the same test. This has been proven again and again to not be true. IQ is highly correlated with many measures of success, it absolutely mean something other than just your ability to score well on the test.