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You also get YouTube Music, which is not as great as Spotify, but nonetheless worth something. In fact, that’s the primary reason everyone I know who has YouTu

You also get YouTube Music, which is not as great as Spotify, but nonetheless worth something. In fact, that’s the primary reason everyone I know who has YouTube Premium subscribes: music steaming + ad-free YouTube. That needs to be factored into your calculation, no?

plorkyeran 3y ago
No, a bundled second thing that I won't use is worth $0 and so does not have to be factored in.
- Deestan 3y ago
  It's even worse, as they actively degrade the features you use. With movies and music in the mix, international licensing agreements needs to be respected. In short, I paid for YouTube premium to avoid ads. Then I travelled to another country where YouTube didn't have licensing rights for all of their movies and music, so my premium account was just disabled completely and I got ads again.
  - michaelbrooks 3y ago
    You can fix that with a VPN service, or by creating your own VPN network. You could buy a Digital Ocean droplet in your location and connect to that like a VPN. https://www.digitalocean.com/solutions/vpn https://www.digitalocean.com/solutions/vpn
    - peoplefromibiza 3y ago
      1 - this is not a solution, it's a workaround. an adblocker solves the issue much better 2 - DO vpns are blocked (almost) everywhere
    - o1y32 3y ago
      Are you asking people to pay additional money to a third party service so that they can continue to use a service they have already paid for and should be fixed by that service provider in the first place? Don't you think this is ridiculous?
  - DirkH 3y ago
    Genuinely curious: if you bought YT premium mainly to block ads, why not just use Ublock Origin along with something like NextDNS?
rocqua 3y ago
I don't need youtube music and am lucky enough to have youtube premium lite available at 6€. That just eliminates ads for half the price.
chaostheory 3y ago
being forced to pay for YouTube music is one of the reasons I ended my YouTube premium subscription years a while back
alpaca128 3y ago
Great, then it shouldn't be a problem to offer a cheaper price for people who only want YouTube, right?
- Mindwipe 3y ago
  After you pay for the music rights for a subscription video service the cost base is identical. As you could use YouTube as a music streaming replacement service (and literally millions of people do) then the labels charge for the same license.
- blowfish721 3y ago
  At least in Sweden they are offering Youtube Premium lite which is just ad-free Youtube (no Youtube Music)for about $6/month.
  - scottshambaugh 3y ago
    That’s about the level I would pay for the service, a major bummer that lite isn’t available in the US.
    - carlosjobim 3y ago
      No, if they introduced this tomorrow you still wouldn't pay. Don't kid yourself.
ben_w 3y ago
> That needs to be factored into your calculation, no? Only if I get to pay for a lifetime of access with a hand-drawn picture of a seven-legged spider.
- lelanthran 3y ago
  I remember that being hilarious. Do you have a link to it?
  - ben_w 3y ago
    https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/paying-bills-with-spider-drawings-seven-legged-spider https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/paying-bills-with-spid... and https://youtu.be/2IivXENMiI8 https://youtu.be/2IivXENMiI8

plorkyeran 3y ago

No, a bundled second thing that I won't use is worth $0 and so does not have to be factored in.

Deestan 3y ago
It's even worse, as they actively degrade the features you use. With movies and music in the mix, international licensing agreements needs to be respected. In short, I paid for YouTube premium to avoid ads. Then I travelled to another country where YouTube didn't have licensing rights for all of their movies and music, so my premium account was just disabled completely and I got ads again.
- michaelbrooks 3y ago
  You can fix that with a VPN service, or by creating your own VPN network. You could buy a Digital Ocean droplet in your location and connect to that like a VPN. https://www.digitalocean.com/solutions/vpn https://www.digitalocean.com/solutions/vpn
  - peoplefromibiza 3y ago
    1 - this is not a solution, it's a workaround. an adblocker solves the issue much better 2 - DO vpns are blocked (almost) everywhere
  - o1y32 3y ago
    Are you asking people to pay additional money to a third party service so that they can continue to use a service they have already paid for and should be fixed by that service provider in the first place? Don't you think this is ridiculous?
- DirkH 3y ago
  Genuinely curious: if you bought YT premium mainly to block ads, why not just use Ublock Origin along with something like NextDNS?

rocqua 3y ago

I don't need youtube music and am lucky enough to have youtube premium lite available at 6€. That just eliminates ads for half the price.

chaostheory 3y ago

being forced to pay for YouTube music is one of the reasons I ended my YouTube premium subscription years a while back

alpaca128 3y ago

Great, then it shouldn't be a problem to offer a cheaper price for people who only want YouTube, right?

Mindwipe 3y ago
After you pay for the music rights for a subscription video service the cost base is identical. As you could use YouTube as a music streaming replacement service (and literally millions of people do) then the labels charge for the same license.
blowfish721 3y ago
At least in Sweden they are offering Youtube Premium lite which is just ad-free Youtube (no Youtube Music)for about $6/month.
- scottshambaugh 3y ago
  That’s about the level I would pay for the service, a major bummer that lite isn’t available in the US.
  - carlosjobim 3y ago
    No, if they introduced this tomorrow you still wouldn't pay. Don't kid yourself.

ben_w 3y ago

> That needs to be factored into your calculation, no? Only if I get to pay for a lifetime of access with a hand-drawn picture of a seven-legged spider.

lelanthran 3y ago
I remember that being hilarious. Do you have a link to it?
- ben_w 3y ago
  https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/paying-bills-with-spider-drawings-seven-legged-spider https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/paying-bills-with-spid... and https://youtu.be/2IivXENMiI8 https://youtu.be/2IivXENMiI8