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For a framework that is radically different but also PHP-native (since PHP 5), would you like to spend an hour playing with https://github.com/Qbix/Platform htt

by EGreg 4y ago

For a framework that is radically different but also PHP-native (since PHP 5), would you like to spend an hour playing with https://github.com/Qbix/Platform https://github.com/Qbix/Platform ? If you do, please share your experience in a comment. I’d love to hear it. I architected this framework over the last decade :)

pkphilip 4y ago
Very interesting. I am shocked that this is the first time I am hearing of your framework. Any chance you can make the app setup work using composure instead of cloning from the git repo? It may increase visibility to your project. But in any case, great job with the platform!
- EGreg 4y ago
  Will look into it. You likely meant composer?
KRAKRISMOTT 4y ago
The way your landing page is laid out isn't doing you any favors. If you are going to build a rapid application development platform, look at Retool for inspiration in terms of designs and copywriting. Cut the token stuff, otherwise you will lose customers or self select for crypto bros. The license you chose will turn off most professional development shops and the ones using the platform would be based in places like eastern Europe where the license will be ignored entirely. Your landing page design is fifteen years out of date, this is the sort of design used to bamboozle small trades shops and non tech companies in places like the midwest and the US south, you will have a hard time attracting the sort of web engineers that will help make it go viral. Again, it depends what sort of customers you are trying to sell to, but if you intend to make a profit, the usually advice would be to offer a cloud offering like WordPress. Selling web frameworks rarely work out unless your product is a specialized database. Your copywriting gives off strong old school enterprise sales vibes with a dash cryptomania. You are not going to get much organic product led growth among the US under 40 crowd here. I suggest taking a look at https://payloadcms.com/ https://payloadcms.com/ and study their design, execution, and copywriting.
- EGreg 4y ago
  You seem to know what you’re talking about. I checked out payloadcms though, that site is pretty terrible…
  - omnimus 4y ago
    I am afraid that if you think that then there is no help.
    - EGreg 4y ago
      Umm... are you serious? I could believe you perhaps with your criticism but then you say this is the future of web design? The site you held up as the example I should emulate feels like some kind of terminal from the 80s movie "Hackers"... are we "hacking the gibson"? It features white text on a black background, overlaid on animated white text on a black background... Then you scroll down, and it has TEXT IN A GIANT SIZE going slowly across the screen.. Then it turns to white and has a video that doesn't fit Then it has text of all different sizes, and code examples, which is irrelevant to most customers. I am not making this up. It's literally here, I would invite anyone to look at these images and tell me whether this is unironically what I should make the Qbix site look like: https://imgur.com/a/IMT6pgB https://imgur.com/a/IMT6pgB Are you affiliated with that site or project?
      - omnimus 4y ago
        You cant take this stuff personally. I think people just try to help. I dont think payloadCMS site is some kind of incredible achievment but its very well done site in line what developers are used to. Qbix website in my opinio has so many issues it is hard to point out which one to fix and how. Sorry but i think is simply a mess. There is too much information crammed together, to many various elements that dont really fit together and it makes is for anyone that visits the site really harder than it needs to be. But what i meant is that with that defensive approach you have… it is going to be tough to make it better.
  - creamyhorror 4y ago
dncornholio 4y ago
Quick scan.. I'm going to be 100% honest. Screenshots looks like it's a hobby project. While scanning the code I came across folders named "files", "classes", "includes" and "scripts" are big warning signs.

by EGreg 4y ago

pkphilip 4y ago

Very interesting. I am shocked that this is the first time I am hearing of your framework. Any chance you can make the app setup work using composure instead of cloning from the git repo? It may increase visibility to your project. But in any case, great job with the platform!

EGreg 4y ago
Will look into it. You likely meant composer?

KRAKRISMOTT 4y ago

The way your landing page is laid out isn't doing you any favors. If you are going to build a rapid application development platform, look at Retool for inspiration in terms of designs and copywriting. Cut the token stuff, otherwise you will lose customers or self select for crypto bros. The license you chose will turn off most professional development shops and the ones using the platform would be based in places like eastern Europe where the license will be ignored entirely. Your landing page design is fifteen years out of date, this is the sort of design used to bamboozle small trades shops and non tech companies in places like the midwest and the US south, you will have a hard time attracting the sort of web engineers that will help make it go viral. Again, it depends what sort of customers you are trying to sell to, but if you intend to make a profit, the usually advice would be to offer a cloud offering like WordPress. Selling web frameworks rarely work out unless your product is a specialized database. Your copywriting gives off strong old school enterprise sales vibes with a dash cryptomania. You are not going to get much organic product led growth among the US under 40 crowd here. I suggest taking a look at https://payloadcms.com/ https://payloadcms.com/ and study their design, execution, and copywriting.

EGreg 4y ago
You seem to know what you’re talking about. I checked out payloadcms though, that site is pretty terrible…
- omnimus 4y ago
  I am afraid that if you think that then there is no help.
  - EGreg 4y ago
    Umm... are you serious? I could believe you perhaps with your criticism but then you say this is the future of web design? The site you held up as the example I should emulate feels like some kind of terminal from the 80s movie "Hackers"... are we "hacking the gibson"? It features white text on a black background, overlaid on animated white text on a black background... Then you scroll down, and it has TEXT IN A GIANT SIZE going slowly across the screen.. Then it turns to white and has a video that doesn't fit Then it has text of all different sizes, and code examples, which is irrelevant to most customers. I am not making this up. It's literally here, I would invite anyone to look at these images and tell me whether this is unironically what I should make the Qbix site look like: https://imgur.com/a/IMT6pgB https://imgur.com/a/IMT6pgB Are you affiliated with that site or project?
    - omnimus 4y ago
      You cant take this stuff personally. I think people just try to help. I dont think payloadCMS site is some kind of incredible achievment but its very well done site in line what developers are used to. Qbix website in my opinio has so many issues it is hard to point out which one to fix and how. Sorry but i think is simply a mess. There is too much information crammed together, to many various elements that dont really fit together and it makes is for anyone that visits the site really harder than it needs to be. But what i meant is that with that defensive approach you have… it is going to be tough to make it better.
- creamyhorror 4y ago

dncornholio 4y ago

Quick scan.. I'm going to be 100% honest. Screenshots looks like it's a hobby project. While scanning the code I came across folders named "files", "classes", "includes" and "scripts" are big warning signs.