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> Plasmodium has no brain or nervous system, yet it can perform brain-like, intelligent functions. well, no. i would say it can performs some simple algorithms

> Plasmodium has no brain or nervous system, yet it can perform brain-like, intelligent functions. well, no. i would say it can performs some simple algorithms. > It knows itself this is useful, performing those algorithms, and so will be selected for. > It is able to learn and anticipate. anticipate? don't know about that. > It can learn, for example, to avoid something potentially harmful. bacteria do this, via very rapid natural selection. > It makes decisions not in the sense we do.

satori99 3y ago
> anticipate? don't know about that. [...] After three cold snaps the scientists stopped changing the temperature and humidity and watched to see whether the amoebas had learned the pattern. Sure enough, many of the cells throttled back right on the hour in anticipation of another bout of cold weather https://www.discovermagazine.com/planet-earth/71-slime-molds-show-surprising-degree-of-intelligence https://www.discovermagazine.com/planet-earth/71-slime-molds...
- zabzonk 3y ago
  not sure a learned cycle is the same as anticipation - but arguable
  - undreren 3y ago
    It would be more constructive, if you defined “anticipate”. Your dismissal really needs that to be taken seriously.
    - zabzonk 3y ago
      > It would be more constructive, if you defined “anticipate”. a term from the OP, not one introduced by me. complain to them.
      - hammyhavoc 3y ago
        Does an LLM anticipate? Is a slime mold more intelligent than an LLM?
        pyrale 3y ago
        I don't know, but if these slimes can adapt to new weather patterns, they're doing better than the average politician with regards to climate change.
mcphage 3y ago
> > It makes decisions > not in the sense we do. Isn't that the point? That in some ways it seems familiar, yet gets there in ways utterly foreign?
- throwaway290 3y ago
  Exactly. For every "it's not human but does something similar to what humans do" there's some "oh but it's not human so what it does is not what humans do". The first one is interesting, the second one is self gratifying. Duhh if it was doing exactly what humans do it would be human which it logically can't be, tell me something I don't know:)

satori99 3y ago

> anticipate? don't know about that. [...] After three cold snaps the scientists stopped changing the temperature and humidity and watched to see whether the amoebas had learned the pattern. Sure enough, many of the cells throttled back right on the hour in anticipation of another bout of cold weather https://www.discovermagazine.com/planet-earth/71-slime-molds-show-surprising-degree-of-intelligence https://www.discovermagazine.com/planet-earth/71-slime-molds...

zabzonk 3y ago
not sure a learned cycle is the same as anticipation - but arguable
- undreren 3y ago
  It would be more constructive, if you defined “anticipate”. Your dismissal really needs that to be taken seriously.
  - zabzonk 3y ago
    > It would be more constructive, if you defined “anticipate”. a term from the OP, not one introduced by me. complain to them.
    - hammyhavoc 3y ago
      Does an LLM anticipate? Is a slime mold more intelligent than an LLM?
      - pyrale 3y ago
        I don't know, but if these slimes can adapt to new weather patterns, they're doing better than the average politician with regards to climate change.

mcphage 3y ago

> > It makes decisions > not in the sense we do. Isn't that the point? That in some ways it seems familiar, yet gets there in ways utterly foreign?

throwaway290 3y ago
Exactly. For every "it's not human but does something similar to what humans do" there's some "oh but it's not human so what it does is not what humans do". The first one is interesting, the second one is self gratifying. Duhh if it was doing exactly what humans do it would be human which it logically can't be, tell me something I don't know:)