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Btw I've arrived at a different interpretation of the "Open" in OpenAI. It's open in the sense that the generic LLM is exposed via an API, allowing companies to
by shrimpx 3y ago
Btw I've arrived at a different interpretation of the "Open" in OpenAI. It's open in the sense that the generic LLM is exposed via an API, allowing companies to build anything they want on top.
Companies like Google have been working on language models (and AI more broadly) for years but have hid the generic intelligence of their models, exposing it only via improvements to their products. OpenAI bucked this trend and exposed an API to generic LLMs.
- cma 3y agoSounds like the famous Facebook hoodie. "Open and connected" was one slogan on it. The API can be shut down at any time. https://venturebeat.com/social/facebook-insignia-hoodie/ https://venturebeat.com/social/facebook-insignia-hoodie/ In the end they just shat all over RSS etc.
- shrimpx 3y agoThis is an important point, although I think incentives don't align at all for OpenAI to close their APIs.
- magicalhippo 3y agoGuess they should rebrand as AvailableAI then...
- EGreg 3y agoUS healthcare should rebrand as “accessible”, even if it is not “affordable” by millions. With an interesting definition of accessible.
- ftxbro 3y ago> Btw I've arrived at a different interpretation of the "Open" in OpenAI. I don't understand why people have to keep trying to wrap their head around the word 'Open' in OpenAI. If you ever saw a commercial like a product has a 'great new taste' but then you tried it and it tasted bad, would you twist yourself into knots trying to understand how you went wrong in your interpretation of 'great'? No that's ridiculous. Same with 'Open' in 'OpenAI'. It's just some letters that form part of the name that they chose for themselves when they filled the form to incorporate their company.
- adastra22 3y agoYou mean when they filled out a form to incorporate their non-profit. Which they later turned into a for-profit company after reaping all the goodwill. The “Open” used to mean something.
- fastball 3y agoThat is a bit reductionist. They turned it into a for-profit company controlled by a non-profit entity, with profits / returns being capped for employees / investors.
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- re-thc 3y agoAll non-profit means is a different tax status. Don't assume they actually don't make money.
- comicjk 3y agoNonprofit status makes it much harder to extract large profits. A charity founder can pay himself a million-dollar salary, but he can't sell his shares in the nonprofit and become a billionaire.
- re-thc 3y ago> Nonprofit status makes it much harder to extract large profits. A charity founder can pay himself a million-dollar salary, but he can't sell his shares in the nonprofit and become a billionaire. What difference does it make for a non-public company? They can pay themselves more salary either way. The shares aren't really valuable until then. As to a charity - if you really believe so. It doesn't even enter the books. Have you not seen an in-person donation site? Someone gives $100, the staff keeps the $100, takes out $50, records $50 and puts that in the donation box. After a few more layers the actual donation could be just $1. I've seen these at your regular big name charities - all the time. And let's not get started on the sponsor a child that doesn't exist options...
- vore 3y agoOpenAI does not need people defending their scummy pivot.
- BoorishBears 3y agoI don't agree it's scummy. Scummy is getting someone to build a business on a 1 Billion dollar donation, going for a hostile takeover 10% of the way there, then reneging when that doesn't work. Salvaging your business from that sort of tantrum by working with MS is called surviving.
- csomar 3y agoYou don't need to "arrive" at an interpretation. Their name is legacy from when they were "open".
- shrimpx 3y agoThat's true. My thought was they're still 'open', in an important way, even though it's not the open source way. If they were smart they'd adopt my interpretation in their PR materials.
- mirekrusin 3y agoIt’s “open” as in “open for business”.
- cubefox 3y ago> Companies like Google have been working on language models (and AI more broadly) for years but have hid the generic intelligence of their models, exposing it only via improvements to their products. OpenAI bucked this trend and exposed an API to generic LLMs. But there is a PaLM API: https://developers.generativeai.google/ https://developers.generativeai.google/ Of course this is a reaction to the OpenAI API.
- shrimpx 3y agoYeah, Google hopped on the bandwagon. Glad to see a PaLM API.