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> Is there anything quite tied/geared to the internals of the system for rasp pi in the same manner as say C64 Basic was? Or does that sort of concern not reall

> Is there anything quite tied/geared to the internals of the system for rasp pi in the same manner as say C64 Basic was? Or does that sort of concern not really matter for today’s CPUs/hardware/aarch? The "Lite" version of RpiOS is probably the closest you'll get. It just boots to the command line. Of course you could use any version of RpiOS and disable boot to GUI in raspi-config to get a similar effect.

lproven 3y ago
If you want a BASIC that's close to the metal, forget Linux. Nothing on Linux is close to the metal. RISC OS is what you want. It includes BBC BASIC V built in and it's probably the fastest interpreted BASIC of all time. No SMP support but no BASIC ever had that. No wifi either. Ethernet works great, though. https://www.riscosdev.com/direct/ https://www.riscosdev.com/direct/
- indigodaddy 3y ago
  Looks cool ty! The BASIC doesn’t support wifi or the OS itself also?
  - lproven 3y ago
    RISC OS doesn't support Wifi or >1 CPU, and it is a 32-bit OS with no 64-bit support (yet). It's the original native OS for the ARM family, designed by some of the same team who designed the ARM processor at Acorn Computers. It's FOSS now and has been modernized a lot, but at the core, this is a multitasking GUI OS hand-coded in Arm assembly language by a team of about 6 people -- most of whom I interviewed a year or so back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_SDL0IwbCc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_SDL0IwbCc In 1987 it originally fit entirely into and ran from 512KB of ROM on the Archimedes computer, and ran in 512KB of RAM. The later RISC OS 3 needed 2MB of ROM. Even now, the core OS fits into about 6MB. That's not the kernel, that's the whole OS, filesystem, GUI, network stack etc. It is a late-1980s OS, older than Windows 2.0, or MS-DOS 5.0, or NeXTstep. It is almost incomprehensibly tiny by modern standards.

lproven 3y ago

If you want a BASIC that's close to the metal, forget Linux. Nothing on Linux is close to the metal. RISC OS is what you want. It includes BBC BASIC V built in and it's probably the fastest interpreted BASIC of all time. No SMP support but no BASIC ever had that. No wifi either. Ethernet works great, though. https://www.riscosdev.com/direct/ https://www.riscosdev.com/direct/

indigodaddy 3y ago
Looks cool ty! The BASIC doesn’t support wifi or the OS itself also?
- lproven 3y ago
  RISC OS doesn't support Wifi or >1 CPU, and it is a 32-bit OS with no 64-bit support (yet). It's the original native OS for the ARM family, designed by some of the same team who designed the ARM processor at Acorn Computers. It's FOSS now and has been modernized a lot, but at the core, this is a multitasking GUI OS hand-coded in Arm assembly language by a team of about 6 people -- most of whom I interviewed a year or so back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_SDL0IwbCc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_SDL0IwbCc In 1987 it originally fit entirely into and ran from 512KB of ROM on the Archimedes computer, and ran in 512KB of RAM. The later RISC OS 3 needed 2MB of ROM. Even now, the core OS fits into about 6MB. That's not the kernel, that's the whole OS, filesystem, GUI, network stack etc. It is a late-1980s OS, older than Windows 2.0, or MS-DOS 5.0, or NeXTstep. It is almost incomprehensibly tiny by modern standards.