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Very nice! I've been wanting to move to something like Graphene or e/OS but they seem set on only supporting most of their security features on Pixel hardware.

Very nice! I've been wanting to move to something like Graphene or e/OS but they seem set on only supporting most of their security features on Pixel hardware. I don't want a Pixel because I don't want anything Google. This seems like a fantastic alternative, and eventually Graphene will support it - in the meanwhile there is DivestOS. I barely use my phone for making calls via the cellular network anyway, and I'm always in a big city with good reception, so not too worried about some of the issues people are talking about. Everything's a compromise anyway.

monarchistmaybe 3y ago
I sympathize with your desire steer clear of Google products, but I doubt Graphene will support any Linux phones anytime soon. GrapheneOS is Google Android's AOSP with security and hardening sauce on top plus a couple apps Google has neglected/omitted from AOSP, like a camera and pdf reader. There's some opt-in glue to make it interop as gracefully and securely as possible with Google's software ecosystem, but it's still heavily dependent on Google for hardware-level fixes and Android in general. The jump from AOSP to Linux/Phosh would be an entirely new codebase. Graphene deciding on Pixel as a foundational device wasn't because of a love for Google, but because of a need for security and hardware updates on a well-worn device platform that has actual traction in the market... as optimistic as I would like to be about the Linux Phone, we're just not there nor will be we for many tomorrows.
- PrimeMcFly 3y ago
  You know, I actually mixed this phone up with the FairPhone which is only really in Europe (mixed reports about it working in the US). That's what I am still planning to get. Not sure about this Librem phone, I may still consider it...but probably not. Graphene I think could work on Fairphone without too much tweaking, not sure if it's worth the effort though.
  - monarchistmaybe 3y ago
    Ah, yes that's far more likely. Graphene might support Fairphone at some point, but I kind of doubt it. I do think it'd be far more easy to fork/retrofit though, if you sincerely had the gumption. Personally, I was bummed they removed the headphone jack on their latest model[0]. If people are going out of their way to avoid the Apple/Google antics of the world, give them a damn headphone jack. Just bogus IMO, but not a deal breaker for many in 2023 I guess. They parroted a lot of Apple's (marketing) points around it and even sell their own adapter... [0]: https://support.fairphone.com/hc/en-us/articles/9836188988049 https://support.fairphone.com/hc/en-us/articles/983618898804...

monarchistmaybe 3y ago

I sympathize with your desire steer clear of Google products, but I doubt Graphene will support any Linux phones anytime soon. GrapheneOS is Google Android's AOSP with security and hardening sauce on top plus a couple apps Google has neglected/omitted from AOSP, like a camera and pdf reader. There's some opt-in glue to make it interop as gracefully and securely as possible with Google's software ecosystem, but it's still heavily dependent on Google for hardware-level fixes and Android in general. The jump from AOSP to Linux/Phosh would be an entirely new codebase. Graphene deciding on Pixel as a foundational device wasn't because of a love for Google, but because of a need for security and hardware updates on a well-worn device platform that has actual traction in the market... as optimistic as I would like to be about the Linux Phone, we're just not there nor will be we for many tomorrows.

PrimeMcFly 3y ago
You know, I actually mixed this phone up with the FairPhone which is only really in Europe (mixed reports about it working in the US). That's what I am still planning to get. Not sure about this Librem phone, I may still consider it...but probably not. Graphene I think could work on Fairphone without too much tweaking, not sure if it's worth the effort though.
- monarchistmaybe 3y ago
  Ah, yes that's far more likely. Graphene might support Fairphone at some point, but I kind of doubt it. I do think it'd be far more easy to fork/retrofit though, if you sincerely had the gumption. Personally, I was bummed they removed the headphone jack on their latest model[0]. If people are going out of their way to avoid the Apple/Google antics of the world, give them a damn headphone jack. Just bogus IMO, but not a deal breaker for many in 2023 I guess. They parroted a lot of Apple's (marketing) points around it and even sell their own adapter... [0]: https://support.fairphone.com/hc/en-us/articles/9836188988049 https://support.fairphone.com/hc/en-us/articles/983618898804...