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why don't you just use chatGPT? from what i know it's running GPT3.5 and it's not that different (at least in terms of code quality)

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jumpCastle 3y ago
In my experiments bard is weaker than 3.5, but if it wasn't, than I would prefer the fresh data of bard.
- cma 3y ago
  What is its training data cutoff date?
  - sanxiyn 3y ago
    We don't know (both for previous model LaMDA and new model PaLM 2), but it is less important for Bard because Bard has access to live data from Google search.
- almog 3y ago
  One area where I noticed Bard was clearly behind (at least without crafting a better prompt) is getting from half-working program to a running program then sometime even to a correct program (I was using Python). With GPT 3.5 and 4, I was able to just paste in the error and it'd do the rest. Bard however tried to tell me what the error could be, and wouldn't do well even when asked to fix the code. Even GPT 4 though, when asked to go from specs to tests + code, would get stuck in a loop of making one test pass only to make the other pass and vice versa. The program I tried to let it write was a query validator that can test whether a string matches a pattern that uses AND, OR and NOT. It did well on parsing my specs into tests, but from there on it didn't go very well.
- cubefox 3y ago
  Bard uses PaLM 2 now, which is definitely better than GPT-3.5. The question is only whether it is better than GPT-4.
chaxor 3y ago
It's quite a vast difference between GPT-3.5 and GPT-4
qumpis 3y ago
When my 25 queries per 3 hours runs out I don't use openai at all. That's how bad chat gpt is in comparison to gpt4 in my use cases.
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- dmix 3y ago
  My biggest complaint is the speed. Watching it print out like 56k is pretty annoying when coding.
ivalm 3y ago
As someone writing my first meaningful react app, code quality from gpt4 is monstrously better than 3.5. With gpt 4 i can often paste entire components and get meaningful corrections/bug fixes/non-trivial refactors. 3.5 just does a loop of mistaken fixes while it runs out of context length.
ilitirit 3y ago
There's a massive difference in response quality in my experience. For example, I asked 3.5 to find a bug in a lengthy piece of Javascript. It said it's hard to give a correct answer because it doesn't know what the HTML or CSS looks like. GPT4 spotted the bug almost immediately (it didn't manage to fix it though).

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jumpCastle 3y ago

In my experiments bard is weaker than 3.5, but if it wasn't, than I would prefer the fresh data of bard.

cma 3y ago
What is its training data cutoff date?
- sanxiyn 3y ago
  We don't know (both for previous model LaMDA and new model PaLM 2), but it is less important for Bard because Bard has access to live data from Google search.
almog 3y ago
One area where I noticed Bard was clearly behind (at least without crafting a better prompt) is getting from half-working program to a running program then sometime even to a correct program (I was using Python). With GPT 3.5 and 4, I was able to just paste in the error and it'd do the rest. Bard however tried to tell me what the error could be, and wouldn't do well even when asked to fix the code. Even GPT 4 though, when asked to go from specs to tests + code, would get stuck in a loop of making one test pass only to make the other pass and vice versa. The program I tried to let it write was a query validator that can test whether a string matches a pattern that uses AND, OR and NOT. It did well on parsing my specs into tests, but from there on it didn't go very well.
cubefox 3y ago
Bard uses PaLM 2 now, which is definitely better than GPT-3.5. The question is only whether it is better than GPT-4.

chaxor 3y ago

It's quite a vast difference between GPT-3.5 and GPT-4

qumpis 3y ago

When my 25 queries per 3 hours runs out I don't use openai at all. That's how bad chat gpt is in comparison to gpt4 in my use cases.

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dmix 3y ago
My biggest complaint is the speed. Watching it print out like 56k is pretty annoying when coding.

ivalm 3y ago

As someone writing my first meaningful react app, code quality from gpt4 is monstrously better than 3.5. With gpt 4 i can often paste entire components and get meaningful corrections/bug fixes/non-trivial refactors. 3.5 just does a loop of mistaken fixes while it runs out of context length.

ilitirit 3y ago

There's a massive difference in response quality in my experience. For example, I asked 3.5 to find a bug in a lengthy piece of Javascript. It said it's hard to give a correct answer because it doesn't know what the HTML or CSS looks like. GPT4 spotted the bug almost immediately (it didn't manage to fix it though).