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yes, daily driving for 2 years now. * it's good. works well, apps reflow nicely, can run a lot of stuff simultaneously without memory issues. There is a nasty

yes, daily driving for 2 years now. * it's good. works well, apps reflow nicely, can run a lot of stuff simultaneously without memory issues. There is a nasty kernel bug relating to suspend and the wwan modem, but that's not pureos specific. * depending on the app, ranging from snappy to so-so. Especially flatpaks tend to stutter... * I don't use those services but it should be possible via gnome-accounts. I do sync a caldav and carddav and that works flawlessly. written from librewolf on my librem5

mike-cardwell 3y ago
Battery life?
- michelledepeil 3y ago
  Not great. With suspend enabled and if I don't use it much, about 8 hours to 0%. If I leave it on (i.e. disable suspend), about 3 hours. I'm honestly almost always near a charger, which I also realize is just a cope.
  - fsflover 3y ago
    This is not normal for this phone. I think you should ask for help on the forums or by email. Examples: https://forums.puri.sm/t/modem-draining-the-battery-very-fast/19682 https://forums.puri.sm/t/modem-draining-the-battery-very-fas... https://forums.puri.sm/t/current-l5-idle-battery-life/14772 https://forums.puri.sm/t/current-l5-idle-battery-life/14772
    - michelledepeil 3y ago
      You're probably right, and battery life varies a bit day-to-day. I haven't done a formal test to double check my statements above, more just a feeling. I've had the phone for a while and the battery has gone through many cycles. It has definitely lost some capacity.
  - mattl 3y ago
    When you say suspend, what does that look like in terms of receiving a phone call or SMS?
    - fsflover 3y ago
      It's still experimental. It works for some users [0], but not for others [1,2]. [0] https://forums.puri.sm/t/status-of-suspend-for-librem-5/13918/13 https://forums.puri.sm/t/status-of-suspend-for-librem-5/1391... [1] https://forums.puri.sm/t/status-of-suspend-for-librem-5/13918/54 https://forums.puri.sm/t/status-of-suspend-for-librem-5/1391... [2] https://forums.puri.sm/t/status-of-suspend-for-librem-5/13918/28?u=fsflover https://forums.puri.sm/t/status-of-suspend-for-librem-5/1391... Recent progress: https://social.librem.one/@dos/110180625035442292 https://social.librem.one/@dos/110180625035442292.
      - seba_dos1 3y ago
        Those forum posts are from more than a year ago, a lot has improved since.
    - seba_dos1 3y ago
      The modem asserts a wake pin when you receive an SMS or phone call, causing the SoC to wake up. Services that rely on data (IM, e-mail etc.) don't wake the phone up (they will rely on periodic wakeups in the future, but there's no infrastructure for it yet). An update that makes communication with the modem after resuming from system suspend reliable has been deployed today (previously it would often fully reenumerate and cause various troubles in the process, now it's instant).
      - michelledepeil 3y ago
        OMG I got this update and modem resume has been flawless since!!! Thanks for your hard work to get this fixed!
- fsflover 3y ago
  About 12 hours without suspend. Its still experimental, but very close: https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Frequently-Asked-Questions#21-how-long-will-be-the-battery-life-of-the-librem-5-evergreen https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Freque....
  - mattl 3y ago
    When did the battery life suddenly get 3-4 times better?
    - fsflover 3y ago
      It's explained in my above link.
      - mattl 3y ago
        It’s not obvious what terms like Evergreen mean?
        fsflover 3y ago
        Evergreen is the latest hardware revision: https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Frequently-Asked-Questions#61-what-are-the-aspen-birch-chestnut-dogwood-evergreen-and-fir-batches https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Freque...
        seba_dos1 3y ago
        There's not much difference in battery usage between hardware batches, the improvements were mostly in software. The battery capacity has changed though - the earliest batches that some early backers opted to receive had a 2000mAh battery, while later ones had 3600mAh one. The mass produced version ended up with 4500mAh. The early batches shipped with early software, and that was actually the biggest contributor to bad battery life and (now long solved) overheating issues.
        3y ago
- seba_dos1 3y ago
  I get about 3-4 hours of active usage (like Web browsing), about 8-12 hours of idle time and about 20-22 hours of suspended time. More with modem off, but then it's not exactly a phone:)
cs702 3y ago
Thanks! I may run a test this summer to see how it goes.

mike-cardwell 3y ago

Battery life?

michelledepeil 3y ago
Not great. With suspend enabled and if I don't use it much, about 8 hours to 0%. If I leave it on (i.e. disable suspend), about 3 hours. I'm honestly almost always near a charger, which I also realize is just a cope.
- fsflover 3y ago
  This is not normal for this phone. I think you should ask for help on the forums or by email. Examples: https://forums.puri.sm/t/modem-draining-the-battery-very-fast/19682 https://forums.puri.sm/t/modem-draining-the-battery-very-fas... https://forums.puri.sm/t/current-l5-idle-battery-life/14772 https://forums.puri.sm/t/current-l5-idle-battery-life/14772
  - michelledepeil 3y ago
    You're probably right, and battery life varies a bit day-to-day. I haven't done a formal test to double check my statements above, more just a feeling. I've had the phone for a while and the battery has gone through many cycles. It has definitely lost some capacity.
- mattl 3y ago
  When you say suspend, what does that look like in terms of receiving a phone call or SMS?
  - fsflover 3y ago
    It's still experimental. It works for some users [0], but not for others [1,2]. [0] https://forums.puri.sm/t/status-of-suspend-for-librem-5/13918/13 https://forums.puri.sm/t/status-of-suspend-for-librem-5/1391... [1] https://forums.puri.sm/t/status-of-suspend-for-librem-5/13918/54 https://forums.puri.sm/t/status-of-suspend-for-librem-5/1391... [2] https://forums.puri.sm/t/status-of-suspend-for-librem-5/13918/28?u=fsflover https://forums.puri.sm/t/status-of-suspend-for-librem-5/1391... Recent progress: https://social.librem.one/@dos/110180625035442292 https://social.librem.one/@dos/110180625035442292.
    - seba_dos1 3y ago
      Those forum posts are from more than a year ago, a lot has improved since.
  - seba_dos1 3y ago
    The modem asserts a wake pin when you receive an SMS or phone call, causing the SoC to wake up. Services that rely on data (IM, e-mail etc.) don't wake the phone up (they will rely on periodic wakeups in the future, but there's no infrastructure for it yet). An update that makes communication with the modem after resuming from system suspend reliable has been deployed today (previously it would often fully reenumerate and cause various troubles in the process, now it's instant).
    - michelledepeil 3y ago
      OMG I got this update and modem resume has been flawless since!!! Thanks for your hard work to get this fixed!
fsflover 3y ago
About 12 hours without suspend. Its still experimental, but very close: https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Frequently-Asked-Questions#21-how-long-will-be-the-battery-life-of-the-librem-5-evergreen https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Freque....
- mattl 3y ago
  When did the battery life suddenly get 3-4 times better?
  - fsflover 3y ago
    It's explained in my above link.
    - mattl 3y ago
      It’s not obvious what terms like Evergreen mean?
      - fsflover 3y ago
        Evergreen is the latest hardware revision: https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Frequently-Asked-Questions#61-what-are-the-aspen-birch-chestnut-dogwood-evergreen-and-fir-batches https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Freque...
        seba_dos1 3y ago
        There's not much difference in battery usage between hardware batches, the improvements were mostly in software. The battery capacity has changed though - the earliest batches that some early backers opted to receive had a 2000mAh battery, while later ones had 3600mAh one. The mass produced version ended up with 4500mAh. The early batches shipped with early software, and that was actually the biggest contributor to bad battery life and (now long solved) overheating issues.
        3y ago
seba_dos1 3y ago
I get about 3-4 hours of active usage (like Web browsing), about 8-12 hours of idle time and about 20-22 hours of suspended time. More with modem off, but then it's not exactly a phone:)

cs702 3y ago

Thanks! I may run a test this summer to see how it goes.