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Your reply suggests you're not totally familiar with what "appeal to authority" means. Your argument (so far) is indeed an appeal to authority. "It's true becau
by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 4y ago
Your reply suggests you're not totally familiar with what "appeal to authority" means. Your argument (so far) is indeed an appeal to authority. "It's true because so-and-so says."
- nr2x 4y agoI am very familiar with rhetoric, and logical fallacies. You apparently are not. I am not saying it is true because do and so says, I’m saying it is true because Google paid the CNIL a large fine and similar legislation is being drafted around the world.
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 4y ago> illegal in many places > comply with the law > Google paid the [authority] a large fine > legislation is being drafted This is the authority to which your argument appeals.
- nr2x 4y agoAppeal to authority as a logical fallacy or rhetorical weakness refers to saying something is true by virtue of an authority figure saying it. Saying the king is wearing a crown is a statement of fact, not an appeal to authority. Saying Google paid a fine is a fact, not an appeal to authority.
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 4y agoThis is where the confusion lies: > Saying Google paid a fine is a fact My point has been that Google believing they have consent for tracking usage of Bard is “valid”. Pointing to the fact that Google paid a fine to a particular legal authority as a reason for understanding that this consent is “not valid” is the appeal to authority. (Please also consider that you have “shifted the goalposts”.) Edit: I should apologize for the above parenthetical about shifting the goalposts. In retrospect this appears more as a regular misunderstanding. I should have tried to clarify earlier. It’s not an excuse but an explanation: I believe I was simply frustrated by the misunderstanding. I am sorry for that accusation.
- nr2x 4y agoIt’s cool dude, no worries.
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 4y agoI’m reminded of being asked as a young child what I want to be when I grow up. No joke, I’d often say something like “I wanna be a lawyer because I like to argue.” Examining it as an adult I recognize that I just enjoy navigating the logic of various arguments. Kind of a stereotypical philosopher; really, young me just didn’t know “philosopher” was a thing. Way more applicable. I appreciate your understanding!
- nr2x 4y agoI’m a hacker at heart who exclusively works with lawyers on highly specific technical data protection issues, so yeah, same. :-)