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Okay, but there's a core flaw in your argument: Microsoft has already cut jobs, and now they're freezing salaries for everyone. You're effectively trying to say

Okay, but there's a core flaw in your argument: Microsoft has already cut jobs, and now they're freezing salaries for everyone. You're effectively trying to say that everyone at Microsoft deserves a pay cut and that their salary is unjustified, which seems a fair bit more delusional. It seems to me you're working backwards from the position of 'Microsoft is justified in what they're doing' and then continuing to adjust your position in order to make that statement true. Given that Microsoft is still extremely valued according to their stock prices and that their earnings are higher than ever, citing market conditions as a reason to cut salaries when your market condition is positive reeks of bullshit.

csa 3y ago
> You're effectively trying to say that everyone at Microsoft deserves a pay cut and that their salary is unjustified Key employees and high performers will be rewarded at MS and elsewhere. It just won’t be announced in a press release. If you want to disagree with me or think that what I say is bullshit, that’s fine. The market will have the final say. I’m just a pundit on a message board. Imho, this move by MS, which will probably be followed by others, is just them exercising their options on their side of the labor market. If folks don’t like it, they can leave and/or change careers. There will almost certainly be a little bit of collateral damage, but I imagine that most of the high value-add people will be happy with their pay packages while keeping their mouths shut.
- Firmwarrior 3y ago
  I wish I could short MSFT, but it still seems like a bad move. The whole company is built around being just barely good enough and hard enough to remove that they stick around forever from inertia The products are all going to keep getting worse as they lose the talent to maintain or upgrade them meaningfully, but it'll take a long time for the company to fade away

csa 3y ago

> You're effectively trying to say that everyone at Microsoft deserves a pay cut and that their salary is unjustified Key employees and high performers will be rewarded at MS and elsewhere. It just won’t be announced in a press release. If you want to disagree with me or think that what I say is bullshit, that’s fine. The market will have the final say. I’m just a pundit on a message board. Imho, this move by MS, which will probably be followed by others, is just them exercising their options on their side of the labor market. If folks don’t like it, they can leave and/or change careers. There will almost certainly be a little bit of collateral damage, but I imagine that most of the high value-add people will be happy with their pay packages while keeping their mouths shut.

Firmwarrior 3y ago
I wish I could short MSFT, but it still seems like a bad move. The whole company is built around being just barely good enough and hard enough to remove that they stick around forever from inertia The products are all going to keep getting worse as they lose the talent to maintain or upgrade them meaningfully, but it'll take a long time for the company to fade away