I am more in the orchestrated collapse to centralize power camp. The Federal Reserve was created with the intent to centralize power in the hands of the banker

I am more in the orchestrated collapse to centralize power camp. The Federal Reserve was created with the intent to centralize power in the hands of the bankers despite stated goals. We are 110 years running under that regime. After a 110 years working towards a goal the ability to orchestrate on a global scale could be quite extensive. I am with you on being dubious of official numbers though. We really have no idea who is telling the truth and who is fudging numbers. I believe that people with a goal to build their power will lie, cheat, murder, and steal to accomplish that goal. If some countries collapse or a genocide is committed in the process they do not give a shit as long as their power is retained.