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Serious question: why do you care so much? Its just a job. You are drone #23423 who will be sacrificed at any moment for the actual shareholders of the company

Serious question: why do you care so much? Its just a job. You are drone #23423 who will be sacrificed at any moment for the actual shareholders of the company (ie. not you with your 200k stock bonus). They don't give a shit about you, and you shouldn't care so much when you have no equity. Get the money, enjoy YOUR life, and move on. If you really care so much, go start your own company and make 100x more money than those clowns. And no offense but software engineering is probably one of the easiest jobs in the world, all things considered. Literally the only investment you need to get started is a working computer of any kind. I don't like this kind of shitty behavior either, but that's the world we live in. I'm not going to go out of my way to make any changes when I have literally no upside/equity, I'd rather go do my own thing.

ketralnis 3y ago
I'm not swayed by cat-is-out-of-the-bag arguments. Bad things can still be bad even while lots of people do the bad thing.
phendrenad2 3y ago
Nice morality shaming. The truth is as humans we are capable of abstract thought, and wishing for a world where we don't have to choose between compromise our principles or being judged by society, even sometimes friends & family, as a "loser".
- moomoo11 3y ago
  Ok but you’re not going to ever make any changes when you don’t understand or choose not to accept the terms/reality of the game itself.
  - phendrenad2 3y ago
    Not everyone can "just be amoral bro". People often have serious hinderances to that (be it religion, personal philosophy, a conscience, whatever).
    - moomoo11 3y ago
      Ok… I’m not saying it’s good or bad. I’m just saying people should know their place and be realistic. The best way to practice your morals (I’m religious) is in your own enterprise. You can bust your ass all you want but ultimately if you’re not in the shareholder class (again not the 200k bonus you got that’s chump change) you are a resource. A pod. That can be taken offline immediately. Go start your own business that you run with good morals. That’s what I did. I far enjoy the gains from that than any 400k plus TC job where I’m just a cog. And btw I’ve never received less than a EE or equivalent rating. Still been affected by dumb company wide policies.

ketralnis 3y ago

I'm not swayed by cat-is-out-of-the-bag arguments. Bad things can still be bad even while lots of people do the bad thing.

phendrenad2 3y ago

Nice morality shaming. The truth is as humans we are capable of abstract thought, and wishing for a world where we don't have to choose between compromise our principles or being judged by society, even sometimes friends & family, as a "loser".

moomoo11 3y ago
Ok but you’re not going to ever make any changes when you don’t understand or choose not to accept the terms/reality of the game itself.
- phendrenad2 3y ago
  Not everyone can "just be amoral bro". People often have serious hinderances to that (be it religion, personal philosophy, a conscience, whatever).
  - moomoo11 3y ago
    Ok… I’m not saying it’s good or bad. I’m just saying people should know their place and be realistic. The best way to practice your morals (I’m religious) is in your own enterprise. You can bust your ass all you want but ultimately if you’re not in the shareholder class (again not the 200k bonus you got that’s chump change) you are a resource. A pod. That can be taken offline immediately. Go start your own business that you run with good morals. That’s what I did. I far enjoy the gains from that than any 400k plus TC job where I’m just a cog. And btw I’ve never received less than a EE or equivalent rating. Still been affected by dumb company wide policies.