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I haven't tuned in for the past few years, but I will today because I'm just curious to see how (if?) Google responds to the ChatGPT phenomenon.

gabereiser 3y ago
I think their response has been pretty clear so far. They don't have a plan. https://bard.google.com/ https://bard.google.com/ https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/01/tech/geoffrey-hinton-leaves-google-ai-fears/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/01/tech/geoffrey-hinton-leaves-g... https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/13/google_lamda_sentient_claims/ https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/13/google_lamda_sentient... https://www.wired.com/story/google-timnit-gebru-ai-what-really-happened/ https://www.wired.com/story/google-timnit-gebru-ai-what-real...
- cubefox 3y ago
  As you wrote this, they announced PaLM 2.
  - gabereiser 3y ago
    Yeah, and I realize my point of view is unpopular here. Integrating across all their services is just doubling down on what they already took from GPT. I didn’t see anything that wowed me. Cool, so I can LLM in Gmail and workspaces. Cool, so I can build a job description based on what others are hiring for instead of my company’s needs. I’m not saying that any of this is easy, just that it’s simply novelty. PaLM 2, we’ll have to see how it performs but it looks promising but it’s just another GPT-4 competitor. Where’s the “while the world was ogling over GPT-4, we built this”? PaLM 2 isn’t distinctive enough for me to say they are paving the way. They totally get it, but they aren’t paving the road forward. Maybe next year.
    - cubefox 3y ago
      Yeah, but it seems their real "big new model" is Gemini, not PaLM 2: > We recently brought these two teams together into a single unit, Google DeepMind. Using the computational resources of Google, they’re focused on building more capable systems, safely and responsibly. > This includes our next-generation foundation model, Gemini, which is still in training. Gemini was created from the ground up to be multimodal, highly efficient at tool and API integrations and built to enable future innovations, like memory and planning. While still early, we’re already seeing impressive multimodal capabilities not seen in prior models. > Once fine-tuned and rigorously tested for safety, Gemini will be available at various sizes and capabilities, just like PaLM 2. It sounds like this is the first "joint project" of the old DeepMind/Brain groups since the merger.
  - int_19h 3y ago
    Yeah, and the PaLM-2-powered Bard is still very meh. Not even GPT-3.5 level, much less GPT-4.
CobrastanJorji 3y ago
Update from the future: we're almost an hour in and ML is pretty much the only thing they've talked about.
nikanj 3y ago
SEO AI is furiously generating crap for Google AI to index & analyze.

gabereiser 3y ago

I think their response has been pretty clear so far. They don't have a plan. https://bard.google.com/ https://bard.google.com/ https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/01/tech/geoffrey-hinton-leaves-google-ai-fears/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/01/tech/geoffrey-hinton-leaves-g... https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/13/google_lamda_sentient_claims/ https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/13/google_lamda_sentient... https://www.wired.com/story/google-timnit-gebru-ai-what-really-happened/ https://www.wired.com/story/google-timnit-gebru-ai-what-real...

cubefox 3y ago
As you wrote this, they announced PaLM 2.
- gabereiser 3y ago
  Yeah, and I realize my point of view is unpopular here. Integrating across all their services is just doubling down on what they already took from GPT. I didn’t see anything that wowed me. Cool, so I can LLM in Gmail and workspaces. Cool, so I can build a job description based on what others are hiring for instead of my company’s needs. I’m not saying that any of this is easy, just that it’s simply novelty. PaLM 2, we’ll have to see how it performs but it looks promising but it’s just another GPT-4 competitor. Where’s the “while the world was ogling over GPT-4, we built this”? PaLM 2 isn’t distinctive enough for me to say they are paving the way. They totally get it, but they aren’t paving the road forward. Maybe next year.
  - cubefox 3y ago
    Yeah, but it seems their real "big new model" is Gemini, not PaLM 2: > We recently brought these two teams together into a single unit, Google DeepMind. Using the computational resources of Google, they’re focused on building more capable systems, safely and responsibly. > This includes our next-generation foundation model, Gemini, which is still in training. Gemini was created from the ground up to be multimodal, highly efficient at tool and API integrations and built to enable future innovations, like memory and planning. While still early, we’re already seeing impressive multimodal capabilities not seen in prior models. > Once fine-tuned and rigorously tested for safety, Gemini will be available at various sizes and capabilities, just like PaLM 2. It sounds like this is the first "joint project" of the old DeepMind/Brain groups since the merger.
- int_19h 3y ago
  Yeah, and the PaLM-2-powered Bard is still very meh. Not even GPT-3.5 level, much less GPT-4.

CobrastanJorji 3y ago

Update from the future: we're almost an hour in and ML is pretty much the only thing they've talked about.

nikanj 3y ago

SEO AI is furiously generating crap for Google AI to index & analyze.