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I'm so curious about that last one. You interviewed and accepted one person, but a different person showed up to actually work? If so, that's incredibly bizarre

I'm so curious about that last one. You interviewed and accepted one person, but a different person showed up to actually work? If so, that's incredibly bizarre.

bombcar 3y ago
Apparently this is moderately common especially during remote Covid work; there were some discussions of it on HN, even to where the person interviewed and accepted was not the person working, and apparently the work was being done by an entire group of people.
- red-iron-pine 3y ago
  Been remote since 2015 and not gonna lie, thought about finding contractors on Fiverr or e-Lance (or whatever e-Lance is called these days) to do just that. Basically become a PM for a team of four Vietenamese kids and pull in pay from 3 gigs. I later did some contracting on the side of a full-time job in 2018 and it was hard -- confusion and burnout set in quickly. But still think about the offshoring approach sometimes...
  - bombcar 3y ago
    There's any number of stories about it being done, but anyone who has tried working this way realizes that you either need very skilled underlings or you spend most of the time managing it anyway and could have done it yourself quicker.
  - brabarossa 3y ago
    Hey, I'm looking for remote work. Lets talk? Email in the profile.
  - bumby 3y ago
    How does this impact taxes and other liability overhead on your part?
sgerenser 3y ago
There’s lots of stories of this happening. Especially once video interviews have become common making the grift easier. Example: https://www.askamanager.org/2022/01/the-new-hire-who-showed-up-is-not-the-same-person-we-interviewed.html https://www.askamanager.org/2022/01/the-new-hire-who-showed-...
heelix 3y ago
Yup. We did a couple phone screens. Person we interviewed knocked it out of the park. Solid answers with historical background on it, we liked the way they solved problems. Most of the team was part of the interview process. The new person started and we realized the person that came in had no more information on what/how we had talked about in the interviews than we did. What was done easily over a screen share was well outside of what this person was capable of. In the interview, solid yanking/putting in VIM - in person, unable to save/close, for example. He was present -- we did wonder if the recruiter we worked with had a paperwork mistake, so asked a few bits about our interview and while he could parrot bits of the answer and our discussion, he could not come close to actually hitting the why or next steps like he did in the interview. That was the point where a camera was required for the interview, for us.

I'm so curious about that last one. You interviewed and accepted one person, but a different person showed up to actually work? If so, that's incredibly bizarre.

bombcar 3y ago

Apparently this is moderately common especially during remote Covid work; there were some discussions of it on HN, even to where the person interviewed and accepted was not the person working, and apparently the work was being done by an entire group of people.

red-iron-pine 3y ago
Been remote since 2015 and not gonna lie, thought about finding contractors on Fiverr or e-Lance (or whatever e-Lance is called these days) to do just that. Basically become a PM for a team of four Vietenamese kids and pull in pay from 3 gigs. I later did some contracting on the side of a full-time job in 2018 and it was hard -- confusion and burnout set in quickly. But still think about the offshoring approach sometimes...
- bombcar 3y ago
  There's any number of stories about it being done, but anyone who has tried working this way realizes that you either need very skilled underlings or you spend most of the time managing it anyway and could have done it yourself quicker.
- brabarossa 3y ago
  Hey, I'm looking for remote work. Lets talk? Email in the profile.
- bumby 3y ago
  How does this impact taxes and other liability overhead on your part?

sgerenser 3y ago

There’s lots of stories of this happening. Especially once video interviews have become common making the grift easier. Example: https://www.askamanager.org/2022/01/the-new-hire-who-showed-up-is-not-the-same-person-we-interviewed.html https://www.askamanager.org/2022/01/the-new-hire-who-showed-...

heelix 3y ago

Yup. We did a couple phone screens. Person we interviewed knocked it out of the park. Solid answers with historical background on it, we liked the way they solved problems. Most of the team was part of the interview process. The new person started and we realized the person that came in had no more information on what/how we had talked about in the interviews than we did. What was done easily over a screen share was well outside of what this person was capable of. In the interview, solid yanking/putting in VIM - in person, unable to save/close, for example. He was present -- we did wonder if the recruiter we worked with had a paperwork mistake, so asked a few bits about our interview and while he could parrot bits of the answer and our discussion, he could not come close to actually hitting the why or next steps like he did in the interview. That was the point where a camera was required for the interview, for us.