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Learning something with GTP-4 is so much more fun than using google/Stack Overflow. It's like having a tutor that knows your code and gives you hints and solut
by geek_at 3y ago
Learning something with GTP-4 is so much more fun than using google/Stack Overflow.
It's like having a tutor that knows your code and gives you hints and solutions based on your actual project. It's a real game changer for learning
- smeagull 3y agoYeah, but how do you get access to 4?
- jstx1 3y agoYou need to pay for ChatGPT Plus, or sign up for their API (there’s a waitlist).
- Semaphor 3y agoFWIW, I got API access quite quickly. Applied March 20, got access March 27. My application was only some 2 line bullshit, their example for "why do you want access" rewritten.
- chpatrick 3y agoI applied March 16 and I'm still waiting.
- Semaphor 3y agoHuh, that’s weird. I thought it was simply generally quick. Did you already have a paid account?
- Veen 3y agoI got API access to GPT-4 almost immediately too, but I know people who have been waiting weeks. On the other hand, I don't have plugin access on ChatGPT yet, even though I applied for that as soon as it came out. There's probably quite a lot of luck involved.
- Tostino 3y agoI'm almost at 2 months of waiting at this point.
- modestygrime 3y agoStrange. I applied April 6th and still don't have access
- sha016 3y agoI've been waiting for over a month.
- input_sh 3y agoBy paying $20/month with no trial. Decide for yourself whether that's worth it based on other people's experiences. Personally, I'll pass.
- metta2uall 3y agoThere is also https://nat.dev https://nat.dev - $5 with no expiry
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- chrisweekly 3y agoLogin or signup as only options, w/ zero context? Seems sketchy.
- blatant303 3y agohttps://github.com/nat/openplayground https://github.com/nat/openplayground
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- chrisweekly 3y agoThanks! THAT is the context I was looking for.
- Stagnant 3y agoThe site is made by Nat Friedman, Github's former CEO.
- chrisweekly 3y agoOk... relevance?
- simonw 3y agoBing is free, and runs on 4.
- Workaccount2 3y agoYeah, but it is weaker and provides different, more search focused, results than ChatGPT4.
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- plondon514 3y agoI'm leveraging this to build https://codeamigo.dev https://codeamigo.dev. Basically it's learn to code, but with an AI assistant. The main reason people drop off of coding tutorials or stop learning is when they see their first error message. I'm already seeing people get un-stuck by using the AI as an assistant, this tech (GPT) is going to completely revolutionize learning.
- pugio 3y agoLooks very cool. I am also working heavily in this space (using AI to help learning). One minor point: In your demo, you state that "Today, almost 50% of code is written by AI, so why shouldn't you learn how to code with AI?" Citation? I thought this might be true of developers using Copilot (based on their recent publications), but even that seems a bit of a stretch. I guess you could claim this because it's so easy to generate LOTS of code with an AI model. How much of that code is used, though? Really 50% of ALL code written now?
- plondon514 3y agoThanks for checking it out! "Today, GitHub Copilot is behind an average of 46 percent of a developers' code across all programming languages -- and in Java, that number jumps to 61 percent." - https://visualstudiomagazine.com/articles/2023/02/15/copilot-upgrade.aspx https://visualstudiomagazine.com/articles/2023/02/15/copilot...
- hallway_monitor 3y agoThis tracks since 90% of all Java code is boilerplate.
- twic 3y agoThat post just cites an original [1] from someone at GitHub which says: > Case in point: When we first launched GitHub Copilot for Individuals in June 2022, more than 27% of developers’ code files on average were generated by GitHub Copilot. Today, GitHub Copilot is behind an average of 46% of a developers’ code across all programming languages—and in Java, that number jumps to 61%. I'm not sure what this means. GitHub does not have the ability to measure Copilot usage across all code written anywhere in the world, so surely it can't be that. Do they mean code generated by Copilot as a fraction of code produced by someone using an IDE with the Copilot plug-in? That number still seems high to me. [1] https://github.blog/2023-02-14-github-copilot-now-has-a-better-ai-model-and-new-capabilities/ https://github.blog/2023-02-14-github-copilot-now-has-a-bett...
- gexla 3y agoAnd this is what you might say while you're learning. As you gain more experience, you realize that there's a wide range of solutions with some spectrum of a fit to your situation. A given solution may fall down in certain cases. What I love you Stack Overflow, is the context which comes with it. You get replies on a given proposed solution which point out where the solution may fail.
- ancientworldnow 3y agoGPT4 absolutely does the same thing if you ask it to. Tell it to suggest approaches and discuss pros and cons and future pitfalls and it does, which makes sense because it is in part stack overflow.
- d_sem 3y agoThe silver lining of LLMs impact on Stack Overflow may be that the platform focuses on facilitating the deeper type of problem solving you describe. My experience with Stack Overflow over the years has been mixed. Frequently users misunderstand the question, threads take weeks or months to resolve, users are called incompetent by frustrated experts, answers are indecipherable to a non expert, and sometimes toxic. ChatGPT frequently outperforms these weakpoints. If they embrace a chatGPT interface as a first line of defense for users questions, it may improve the quality of real questions, reduce repetition, and filter through actually good and compelling questions. LLMs still need systems that encourage high quality data generation from humans to improve its model. I would like to imagine a world where there is a win-win for AI and the website we've relied on so much over the years.
- yCombLinks 3y agoThe worst is the large amount of questions that solve an unrelated problem that's specific to the single asker's use case. Question, how do you do x? Response, oh, you can y instead and avoid x. Sorry, I want to know how to x, change the question
- zoogeny 3y agoStep 1: Microsoft buys Stack Overflow Step 2: They implement GPT-4 responses to questions Step 3: The community + context provide the same feedback Step 4: GPT-5/6/7 gets progressively better
- stonekyx 3y agoI understand the excitement feeling of using something like this to greatly reduce the learning effort. Before GPT/ChatGPT, it was definitely frustrating to "bootstrap" your knowledge in any new area where you don't have prior experience. But still, I treasure the old ways I learned how to program. It was such a fulfilling experience by making newbie mistakes and getting corrected in hard ways, and you really only get the authentic insight by going through that process, and by reading all those important books chapter by chapter. It's probably not as "fun" as using GPT-4 though.
- kasrsf 3y agoI've been trying to do it to some extent but I can't say it's been enjoyable (granted most of it has been GPT-3). It's more like a tutor that never calls out your mistakes and gaps. Anything you ask, it comes up with an affirmative answer, I try the answer and it ends up being a hallucination. At this point, i am in a place where GPT gives me good solutions that might not work vs having to go through all the noise Googling stuff to find a working solution. But it is great just to learn different concepts at a high level. Helps me clear my mind when coming up with designs
- camwest 3y agoI think fun is the key difference as well! Even when it takes longer it’s a lot more engaging.
- d4rkp4ttern 3y agoI actually often add GPT4 responses into a markdown page and build a whole library of “how to do x”