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I am sorry to say but at this point Pakistan is a failed state. It’s fascinating to see how India just leaped ahead of Pakistan even though they both got indep

I am sorry to say but at this point Pakistan is a failed state. It’s fascinating to see how India just leaped ahead of Pakistan even though they both got independence at the same time and were essentially the same people divided based on religion. I hate to say this but maybe there’s something to be said about religion here.

EricHolden12 3y ago
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- hutzlibu 3y ago
  "I would rather live in Pakistan despite it allegedly being a “failed state” according to you over India any day of the week." Can you give reasons for this? I have never been to either country, but I know many people who travelled all over india, but allmost none, who traveled in Pakistan, because as a westener you cannot even travel in many places there at all, or in others without police guiding you (and you paying them).
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- roncesvalles 3y ago
  >I would rather live in Pakistan despite it allegedly being a "failed state" according to you over India any day of the week. That's understandable if you're Pakistani and have a nostalgia for home, or perhaps some special affinity for their cuisine, but is nonsensical otherwise. >I’m sure many Indians will agree. So you might hear sometimes in Indian social media or op-eds the phrase "I'd rather live in Pakistan" (and to a greater degree "You should go live in Pakistan") but that's almost always used provocatively, because of how ridiculous it is. I don't even think that most Indian Muslims would prefer Pakistan over India.
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- crop_rotation 3y ago
  You make so many claims without evidence or even explanation. Extraordinary claims like "I’m sure many Indians will agree." require some evidence, if not extraordinary evidence. You talk of the bad deal Jinnah made but again don't say what it was. I hope you are not seriously suggesting that the new country name slowed down progress. > "we’ll just be this new thing in the side called Pakistan). Because of this, Pakistan is still a baby of a country. "
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      You don't owe anyone anything and I don't demand anything from you. My comment highlights the flaws in your argument for other readers to easily see that your comment is a rant and not a well thought out argument.
      - EricHolden12 3y ago
        Yes, and?
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namadaza 3y ago
Bangladesh and Indonesia, two countries in similar parts of the world, with a majority Muslim population, are much more stable, with strong, growing economies. Maybe there's something positive to be said about religion here as well I guess? Reaching for a simple answer for a complex problem is plainly intellectually dishonest.
- peanuty1 3y ago
  I'm ethnically Bangladeshi. Bangladesh is officially a secular country (at least in theory - religion is still a big part of day-to-day life) that has a significant Hindu minority whereas Pakistan is an "Islamic Republic". Your average Bangladeshi is less religious than the average Pakistani.
  - kalimanzaro 3y ago
    Ditto for Indonesia

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hutzlibu 3y ago
"I would rather live in Pakistan despite it allegedly being a “failed state” according to you over India any day of the week." Can you give reasons for this? I have never been to either country, but I know many people who travelled all over india, but allmost none, who traveled in Pakistan, because as a westener you cannot even travel in many places there at all, or in others without police guiding you (and you paying them).
- EricHolden12 3y ago
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roncesvalles 3y ago
>I would rather live in Pakistan despite it allegedly being a "failed state" according to you over India any day of the week. That's understandable if you're Pakistani and have a nostalgia for home, or perhaps some special affinity for their cuisine, but is nonsensical otherwise. >I’m sure many Indians will agree. So you might hear sometimes in Indian social media or op-eds the phrase "I'd rather live in Pakistan" (and to a greater degree "You should go live in Pakistan") but that's almost always used provocatively, because of how ridiculous it is. I don't even think that most Indian Muslims would prefer Pakistan over India.
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crop_rotation 3y ago
You make so many claims without evidence or even explanation. Extraordinary claims like "I’m sure many Indians will agree." require some evidence, if not extraordinary evidence. You talk of the bad deal Jinnah made but again don't say what it was. I hope you are not seriously suggesting that the new country name slowed down progress. > "we’ll just be this new thing in the side called Pakistan). Because of this, Pakistan is still a baby of a country. "
- EricHolden12 3y ago
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  - crop_rotation 3y ago
    You don't owe anyone anything and I don't demand anything from you. My comment highlights the flaws in your argument for other readers to easily see that your comment is a rant and not a well thought out argument.
    - EricHolden12 3y ago
      Yes, and?

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namadaza 3y ago

Bangladesh and Indonesia, two countries in similar parts of the world, with a majority Muslim population, are much more stable, with strong, growing economies. Maybe there's something positive to be said about religion here as well I guess? Reaching for a simple answer for a complex problem is plainly intellectually dishonest.

peanuty1 3y ago
I'm ethnically Bangladeshi. Bangladesh is officially a secular country (at least in theory - religion is still a big part of day-to-day life) that has a significant Hindu minority whereas Pakistan is an "Islamic Republic". Your average Bangladeshi is less religious than the average Pakistani.
- kalimanzaro 3y ago
  Ditto for Indonesia