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Yeah, I wish they hadn't clobbered the name of an existing, well-known protocol. It's still used in drivers for cellular modems (I'm working with it right now),

Yeah, I wish they hadn't clobbered the name of an existing, well-known protocol. It's still used in drivers for cellular modems (I'm working with it right now), which are getting more and more numerous for IoT applications.

quaintdev 3y ago
Makes it really hard to search stuff. This has happened with Matrix, Go. Although using golang resolves issue with Go.
- magicalhippo 3y ago
  Indeed. As much as the k-based KDE app names might look or sound silly, they're mostly quite searchable due to being a tad different.
  - jackvalentine 3y ago
    They might be searchable on the wider internet if you’re looking for info on them, but I can never remember them when I need them on the actual system.
    - account42 3y ago
      Your launcher doesn't find them by description or substring?
      - jackvalentine 3y ago
        Not reliably enough. On my windows PC, I type ‘note’ and slam enter to open notepad a thousand times a day without a problem. On my KDE desktop ‘text’ seems to 50/50 bring up… whatever the text editor is called and 50/50 something else. Apparently “Kate” is what I’m after. There is real value in naming things after what they do and it’s my sole gripe with KDE that they have stupid names.
        sgtnoodle 3y ago
        On my cinnamon setup, typing "note" pulls up the settings panel for my installed basic text editor. :-|
- Gordonjcp 3y ago
  nodejs has not solved this problem with "node" which is an admittedly shitty name for a very old amateur radio networking package.
- lsaferite 3y ago
  I agree that 'go' has to be the worst naming from an SEO perspective. Only ones worse a single letter names. And TBH, they might be _better_ simply because they aren't a common English language word.
  - sterlind 3y ago
    better than .net, admittedly.
manojlds 3y ago
It's a cheeky way to say @ protocol.
- detourdog 3y ago
  Maybe they could call it the Strudel protocol?
  - sgtnoodle 3y ago
    "The protocol formerly known as Strudel"?
    - contingencies 3y ago
      Fetus
      - detourdog 3y ago
        I think to use the fetus the @ should represent a kernel, object, but in a generic form such / representing the top of the tree. I can also see the term becoming controversial such male and female vs. plug and socket. Some see the former as blatantly sexual and the latter requiring dirty mind to be sexual. Maybe it's best to hold off on that reference until we get more voices to chime in.
  - airstrike 3y ago
    "Rocambole" would be even easier to search for
    - detourdog 3y ago
      Ok, If I make a protocol I will call it "rocambole" but I will be thinking of the sand leek rather than the victorian fictional adventurer.
      - airstrike 3y ago
cozzyd 3y ago
Speaking of which, does anybody know a good freestanding C library that doesn't use dynamic allocation for the Hayes AT protocol?
- sgtnoodle 3y ago
  I've certainly had to implement AT commands in C, but within a proprietary codebase. It's tough to do in a freestanding way given that it's a command-response protocol. It's very convenient to depend on the specific uart API that's available.

quaintdev 3y ago

Makes it really hard to search stuff. This has happened with Matrix, Go. Although using golang resolves issue with Go.

magicalhippo 3y ago
Indeed. As much as the k-based KDE app names might look or sound silly, they're mostly quite searchable due to being a tad different.
- jackvalentine 3y ago
  They might be searchable on the wider internet if you’re looking for info on them, but I can never remember them when I need them on the actual system.
  - account42 3y ago
    Your launcher doesn't find them by description or substring?
    - jackvalentine 3y ago
      Not reliably enough. On my windows PC, I type ‘note’ and slam enter to open notepad a thousand times a day without a problem. On my KDE desktop ‘text’ seems to 50/50 bring up… whatever the text editor is called and 50/50 something else. Apparently “Kate” is what I’m after. There is real value in naming things after what they do and it’s my sole gripe with KDE that they have stupid names.
      - sgtnoodle 3y ago
        On my cinnamon setup, typing "note" pulls up the settings panel for my installed basic text editor. :-|
Gordonjcp 3y ago
nodejs has not solved this problem with "node" which is an admittedly shitty name for a very old amateur radio networking package.
lsaferite 3y ago
I agree that 'go' has to be the worst naming from an SEO perspective. Only ones worse a single letter names. And TBH, they might be _better_ simply because they aren't a common English language word.
- sterlind 3y ago
  better than .net, admittedly.

manojlds 3y ago

It's a cheeky way to say @ protocol.

detourdog 3y ago
Maybe they could call it the Strudel protocol?
- sgtnoodle 3y ago
  "The protocol formerly known as Strudel"?
  - contingencies 3y ago
    Fetus
    - detourdog 3y ago
      I think to use the fetus the @ should represent a kernel, object, but in a generic form such / representing the top of the tree. I can also see the term becoming controversial such male and female vs. plug and socket. Some see the former as blatantly sexual and the latter requiring dirty mind to be sexual. Maybe it's best to hold off on that reference until we get more voices to chime in.
- airstrike 3y ago
  "Rocambole" would be even easier to search for
  - detourdog 3y ago
    Ok, If I make a protocol I will call it "rocambole" but I will be thinking of the sand leek rather than the victorian fictional adventurer.
    - airstrike 3y ago

cozzyd 3y ago

Speaking of which, does anybody know a good freestanding C library that doesn't use dynamic allocation for the Hayes AT protocol?

sgtnoodle 3y ago
I've certainly had to implement AT commands in C, but within a proprietary codebase. It's tough to do in a freestanding way given that it's a command-response protocol. It's very convenient to depend on the specific uart API that's available.