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Not having read the article, I got pretty far into your second paragraph before realizing you all aren't talking about configuring a modem over a serial link. I
by sgtnoodle 3y ago
Not having read the article, I got pretty far into your second paragraph before realizing you all aren't talking about configuring a modem over a serial link. It's funny because the "Hayes AT command set" protocol is also an obtuse crock. I was really hoping you were going to open my mind with some deep wisdom straight out of 1981.
- askvictor 3y agoYeah, I wish they hadn't clobbered the name of an existing, well-known protocol. It's still used in drivers for cellular modems (I'm working with it right now), which are getting more and more numerous for IoT applications.
- quaintdev 3y agoMakes it really hard to search stuff. This has happened with Matrix, Go. Although using golang resolves issue with Go.
- magicalhippo 3y agoIndeed. As much as the k-based KDE app names might look or sound silly, they're mostly quite searchable due to being a tad different.
- jackvalentine 3y agoThey might be searchable on the wider internet if you’re looking for info on them, but I can never remember them when I need them on the actual system.
- account42 3y agoYour launcher doesn't find them by description or substring?
- jackvalentine 3y agoNot reliably enough. On my windows PC, I type ‘note’ and slam enter to open notepad a thousand times a day without a problem. On my KDE desktop ‘text’ seems to 50/50 bring up… whatever the text editor is called and 50/50 something else. Apparently “Kate” is what I’m after. There is real value in naming things after what they do and it’s my sole gripe with KDE that they have stupid names.
- sgtnoodle 3y agoOn my cinnamon setup, typing "note" pulls up the settings panel for my installed basic text editor. :-|
- Gordonjcp 3y agonodejs has not solved this problem with "node" which is an admittedly shitty name for a very old amateur radio networking package.
- lsaferite 3y agoI agree that 'go' has to be the worst naming from an SEO perspective. Only ones worse a single letter names. And TBH, they might be _better_ simply because they aren't a common English language word.
- sterlind 3y agobetter than .net, admittedly.
- manojlds 3y agoIt's a cheeky way to say @ protocol.
- detourdog 3y agoMaybe they could call it the Strudel protocol?
- sgtnoodle 3y ago"The protocol formerly known as Strudel"?
- contingencies 3y agoFetus
- detourdog 3y agoI think to use the fetus the @ should represent a kernel, object, but in a generic form such / representing the top of the tree. I can also see the term becoming controversial such male and female vs. plug and socket. Some see the former as blatantly sexual and the latter requiring dirty mind to be sexual. Maybe it's best to hold off on that reference until we get more voices to chime in.
- airstrike 3y ago"Rocambole" would be even easier to search for
- cozzyd 3y agoSpeaking of which, does anybody know a good freestanding C library that doesn't use dynamic allocation for the Hayes AT protocol?
- sgtnoodle 3y agoI've certainly had to implement AT commands in C, but within a proprietary codebase. It's tough to do in a freestanding way given that it's a command-response protocol. It's very convenient to depend on the specific uart API that's available.
- knorker 3y agoIt's all the rage nowadays. Microsoft pushing LoRA, which has nothing to do with LoRa.
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- detourdog 3y agoYes, I came for a critique of the Hayes AT commands.
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- simultsop 3y agoSo anything later than 1981 is wisdomless?
- rini17 3y agoATH
- kriro 3y agoI thought exactly the same. I will dive into configuring a Raspberry Pi to work with a 5G hat/SIM and will use at commands for this (first time ever). I was looking forward to reading how horrible an experience it will be and was a bit confused :D
- Gordonjcp 3y agoYou sound like you may also be old enough to remember dealing with AT keyboard scan codes directly.
- sgtnoodle 3y agoI can't say that I have had that pleasure, or if I have I didn't realize it by name. I've just spent a lot of time hammering out reliability issues on embedded cell modems with buggy firmware and power supplies that droop too much on 2G transmissions.
- fatnoah 3y agoI had the same reaction. It seemed really weird to get upset about such an old thing.
- JohnFen 3y agoNostalgic outrage is one of the more interesting forms of nostalgia.
- bunnie 3y agoI had the same reaction. (-_-)
- ClumsyPilot 3y ago> Hayes AT command set" protocol is also an obtuse crock. I will nake sure to reuse this name if I ever find myself developing an Obtuse crock.
- detourdog 3y agoYes, I'm going to call my object database the ObtuseCrock. Everything that inherits from this base will be an obtuseCrock object. These can be addressed obtuseCrock.[1] or by name directly.
- RHSeeger 3y ago> the "Hayes AT command set" protocol is also an obtuse crock Yeah, but it's an obtuse crock that you can literally still here in your memories. How many protocols can say that? It has a special place in my heart, I think.
- detourdog 3y agoI keep a Hayes Smart Modem 300 within arm's reach of my desk just in case.
- ElfinTrousers 3y agoThat's good. In case of home intruders you'll have a heavy, sturdy bludgeon at hand.
- patchtopic 3y agoI assumed Hayes AT at first as well.
- runlaszlorun 3y agoHahaha… I clicked thinking the same. I was ready for a good rant on Hayes modem commands… :)
- natural219 3y agoThis is completely irrelevant to the article and response
- stavros 3y agoATDT12398192831