Exactly, humans are free from limitations. When nature doesn't suit us, we have the capacity for transformation, just as bees have. However, we can choose any s

Exactly, humans are free from limitations. When nature doesn't suit us, we have the capacity for transformation, just as bees have. However, we can choose any scale, even planetary. But that freedom is an illusion. There is no transformation of nature which happens without interference from the system around us. If we decided that the planet should be a couple degrees warmer for agricultural output to increase, we would inevitably find ourselves in an ecological collapse and a resulting collapse of agricultural output. It's just not something we can do. Nature itself is the limit, pushing beyond that means inevitable ecological collapse and resulting human collapse – we cannot eat without nature. Not that some chemicals can't be produced synthetically, but not nearly all. The massive expense we would incur over feeding just a couple of people with massive bioreactors to avoid interacting with nature at all would be prohibiting. We are, as are all other species, trapped within nature despite our capacity to transform it. This is because we are nature, not something that transcends it. We are the Lorax, we speak for the trees, we uniquely have both an imagination and the capacity to labour. There is evidence to suggest we will hit a peak - humans simply don't want that many children at some point after the elimination of scarcity. We know this, you can look outside and see it if you live in what they call the "global north" or "imperialist core" or however you want to refer to it. We don't know why, but it happens. Humans and nature are very much compatible, although it is true, that unchecked human activity could kill everything. Not even growth, just activity, and at a fraction of the current population could have already killed everything. It's not inherently human to take and destroy, that's just a necessity places upon us all by our current societal structure. We do it or someone else does it and we starve. But it does not have to be like this. The world is, again, not a neo-Malthusian nightmare which requires genocide to overpower for the sake of plants and animals which could less understand what is happening. We must, as we are limited, live within nature as part of it, transforming it, but our current transformation, necessitated by society as it is, is simply idiotic. There is no evidence to suggest that we are anywhere close to a "carrying capacity" or we will ever suck life out of the system and leave rather than simply glassing it and ourselves or learning to live with it. We cannot leave, this life would not grow anywhere else without immense struggles, it can only exist within complex ecosystems and taking them out of that context will destroy them. We cannot suck it out, for it is our own death as well.