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Seems unreasonable that you're downvoted for this comment. You can't complain about ads and also complain about paying a subscription.

by danjc 3y ago

salawat 3y ago
...Yes you absolutely can. The web was never meant to be your monetization tool. A bunch of mouth breathing, money grubbing assholes came up with the idea that the web should be the next great advertising frontier. And as the creation of the Universe was, so to was the web becoming the next advertising frontier widely considered a bad move. So get off my web, and go set up your monetized fiefdom elsewhere. This place was not meant for your ilk. Leave us, and take your shitty rip-off content syndication farms with you. Leave and sully our search indexes no more! Go and find your own damn playground. Oh, wait, what's that? Don't want to move somewhere or build a network that requires opt-in to your shitty monetization schemes because you'd miss out on all the eyeballs that won't follow you? Well... Now you know why we complain. Because your arse feels entitled to pollute the shit out of our indexes and poison our wells.
- hardware2win 3y ago
  >The web was never meant to be your monetization tool. Who defined what web was meant to?
  - prepend 3y ago
    You’re not asking a rhetorical question. The web was designed and you can read the original paper, https://www.w3.org/History/1989/proposal.html https://www.w3.org/History/1989/proposal.html And you can read other parts as they were designed and added.
midoridensha 3y ago
Sure you can. The problem with ads is that the ad-pushers basically forced people to use adblockers. In the early days, people put up with a few ads here and there as the cost of seeing stuff for free, plus ad-blockers didn't exist yet. But then the ad-pushers kept making the experience worse and worse, and the ads more and more intrusive and obnoxious. People invented ad-blockers, and as the ads got even worse (and even dangerous: many were laden with viruses), more and more people turned to ad-blockers, even if before they were ambivalent or even wanted to support the advertising model. This story is as old as the WWW. It's the same thing now. YouTube ads weren't that bad before, but as several comments here have noted, they're getting worse and worse. So before, only die-hard ad-haters would employ ad-blockers, but now the advertisers are pushing more people to use them.
Khaine 3y ago
I can and will complain. Youtube ads are bad in two ways: 1) they have these ads that pop-over and hide the content 2) there ad breaks are cut into content at in-opportune moments. At least on TV, the content is designed around the ad breaks Collectively, those two things make the ads on YouTube infuriating. It's then made worse by the ramp up in the volume of ads. Either work with content creators on when ads are displayed to make the content and ad experience better (a la tv) or come up with a different method. And for the love go god, git rid of those stupid ads that pop over the content.

Seems unreasonable that you're downvoted for this comment. You can't complain about ads and also complain about paying a subscription.

by danjc 3y ago

Seems unreasonable that you're downvoted for this comment. You can't complain about ads and also complain about paying a subscription.

salawat 3y ago

...Yes you absolutely can. The web was never meant to be your monetization tool. A bunch of mouth breathing, money grubbing assholes came up with the idea that the web should be the next great advertising frontier. And as the creation of the Universe was, so to was the web becoming the next advertising frontier widely considered a bad move. So get off my web, and go set up your monetized fiefdom elsewhere. This place was not meant for your ilk. Leave us, and take your shitty rip-off content syndication farms with you. Leave and sully our search indexes no more! Go and find your own damn playground. Oh, wait, what's that? Don't want to move somewhere or build a network that requires opt-in to your shitty monetization schemes because you'd miss out on all the eyeballs that won't follow you? Well... Now you know why we complain. Because your arse feels entitled to pollute the shit out of our indexes and poison our wells.

hardware2win 3y ago
>The web was never meant to be your monetization tool. Who defined what web was meant to?
- prepend 3y ago
  You’re not asking a rhetorical question. The web was designed and you can read the original paper, https://www.w3.org/History/1989/proposal.html https://www.w3.org/History/1989/proposal.html And you can read other parts as they were designed and added.

midoridensha 3y ago

Sure you can. The problem with ads is that the ad-pushers basically forced people to use adblockers. In the early days, people put up with a few ads here and there as the cost of seeing stuff for free, plus ad-blockers didn't exist yet. But then the ad-pushers kept making the experience worse and worse, and the ads more and more intrusive and obnoxious. People invented ad-blockers, and as the ads got even worse (and even dangerous: many were laden with viruses), more and more people turned to ad-blockers, even if before they were ambivalent or even wanted to support the advertising model. This story is as old as the WWW. It's the same thing now. YouTube ads weren't that bad before, but as several comments here have noted, they're getting worse and worse. So before, only die-hard ad-haters would employ ad-blockers, but now the advertisers are pushing more people to use them.

Khaine 3y ago

I can and will complain. Youtube ads are bad in two ways: 1) they have these ads that pop-over and hide the content 2) there ad breaks are cut into content at in-opportune moments. At least on TV, the content is designed around the ad breaks Collectively, those two things make the ads on YouTube infuriating. It's then made worse by the ramp up in the volume of ads. Either work with content creators on when ads are displayed to make the content and ad experience better (a la tv) or come up with a different method. And for the love go god, git rid of those stupid ads that pop over the content.