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Anyone else read "AT protocol" and thought of old modems?

numlock86 3y ago
Yes, me. But old modems? Two months ago I was integrating a 5G modem into a bare metal embedded application. AT is also used for the WiFi and Bluetooth chips/modems we use. AT commands on two- or four-wire RS232. Not everything is Linux and PCI/USB.
- chaorace 3y ago
  Same boat. A few years back I spent a summer living off LTE internet (before it was cool!) using a Sierra Wireless USB modem bodged into barely working with the help of pirated reference docs. Man am I glad that I gave up on that idea -- the OG AT protocol is, indeed, a totally obtuse crock of shit to the point where, honestly, it barely even qualifies for the moniker of "protocol" at all.
- DoingIsLearning 3y ago
  Same here, had a client ask for an AT command set to have a brand new nRF52 talking with a Cortex-M3 running some other legacy code.
lostfocus 3y ago
Yes. I even started to hear the noises.
TkTech 3y ago
Not even old modems, AT is still used everywhere. Just about every modem I've bought off Sparkfun uses AT.
yokoprime 3y ago
Yes. I was very confused for a second.
coding123 3y ago
ATA
lvoudour 3y ago
Yes and the expletive fits
someweirdperson 3y ago
> Anyone else read "AT protocol" and thought of old modems? Almost. AT yes, but not protocol. I always considered it to be a user interface.
phendrenad2 3y ago
I was expecting an old old rant about winmodems and stuff
doctor_eval 3y ago
+++
samtho 3y ago
I work in IoT and write firmware, among other things, that talk to modems. I got really excited to explore a good, in-depth analysis of why the Hayes AT command set is terrible (because it objectively is), instead, we were treated to complaining about a relatively obscure social network API.
sschueller 3y ago
Yes, I was expecting an explanation in the comments why it is not a crock of shit because back in the day we had only very few bytes to communicate and the "young kids" today don't know what they have etc...
hashar 3y ago
Definitely it rang as Hayes AT command set to me ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayes_AT_command_set https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayes_AT_command_set ). So I was kind of expecting a dig into those commands which I recently had to relearn again for automobiles OBD-2 :)
goodpoint 3y ago
Naming the new federated protocol AT / @ is a bad idea.
einr 3y ago
Yes, this is a brutally poor choice of name. The AT command set is not only well known to virtually every computer person on the planet and has been for 40+ years, it is also not even obsolete but in constant use everywhere on the planet. Just... please change the name of whatever this is.
bandrami 3y ago
I typed in AT commands today to connect to my mobile provider. YMMV. (In fairness it's only because I hosed my ModemManager config earlier this week and haven't had time to figure out what I did wrong yet, but still.)
oytis 3y ago
Yes, and completely agree with the title.

Yes, me. But old modems? Two months ago I was integrating a 5G modem into a bare metal embedded application. AT is also used for the WiFi and Bluetooth chips/modems we use. AT commands on two- or four-wire RS232. Not everything is Linux and PCI/USB.

chaorace 3y ago
Same boat. A few years back I spent a summer living off LTE internet (before it was cool!) using a Sierra Wireless USB modem bodged into barely working with the help of pirated reference docs. Man am I glad that I gave up on that idea -- the OG AT protocol is, indeed, a totally obtuse crock of shit to the point where, honestly, it barely even qualifies for the moniker of "protocol" at all.
DoingIsLearning 3y ago
Same here, had a client ask for an AT command set to have a brand new nRF52 talking with a Cortex-M3 running some other legacy code.

lostfocus 3y ago

Yes. I even started to hear the noises.

TkTech 3y ago

Not even old modems, AT is still used everywhere. Just about every modem I've bought off Sparkfun uses AT.

yokoprime 3y ago

Yes. I was very confused for a second.

coding123 3y ago

ATA

lvoudour 3y ago

Yes and the expletive fits

someweirdperson 3y ago

> Anyone else read "AT protocol" and thought of old modems? Almost. AT yes, but not protocol. I always considered it to be a user interface.

phendrenad2 3y ago

I was expecting an old old rant about winmodems and stuff

doctor_eval 3y ago

+++

samtho 3y ago

I work in IoT and write firmware, among other things, that talk to modems. I got really excited to explore a good, in-depth analysis of why the Hayes AT command set is terrible (because it objectively is), instead, we were treated to complaining about a relatively obscure social network API.

sschueller 3y ago

Yes, I was expecting an explanation in the comments why it is not a crock of shit because back in the day we had only very few bytes to communicate and the "young kids" today don't know what they have etc...

hashar 3y ago

Definitely it rang as Hayes AT command set to me ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayes_AT_command_set https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayes_AT_command_set ). So I was kind of expecting a dig into those commands which I recently had to relearn again for automobiles OBD-2 :)

goodpoint 3y ago

Naming the new federated protocol AT / @ is a bad idea.

einr 3y ago

Yes, this is a brutally poor choice of name. The AT command set is not only well known to virtually every computer person on the planet and has been for 40+ years, it is also not even obsolete but in constant use everywhere on the planet. Just... please change the name of whatever this is.

bandrami 3y ago

I typed in AT commands today to connect to my mobile provider. YMMV. (In fairness it's only because I hosed my ModemManager config earlier this week and haven't had time to figure out what I did wrong yet, but still.)

oytis 3y ago

Yes, and completely agree with the title.