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I still receive the occasional email from this bug report, about being able to force excluding undesired noise from search results: https://bugzilla.mozilla.or

by j1elo 3y ago

I still receive the occasional email from this bug report, about being able to force excluding undesired noise from search results: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=752844 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=752844 It's been open for, I don't know, 5 or 6 years? (checks the link... yup, actually 11) Another one I'm subscribed too, also related to search and discovery, is this one about using boolean operators: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=297852 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=297852 I commented in a recent thread about GitHub at last being able to search for "WORD" and finding "-DWORD" in results, they took somewhere around 6 years since I had the need, so it was a welcome improvement... so maybe 2023 will be "the year of search on the desktop" and Thunderbird will start improving its UX for searching emails? Who knows. Meanwhile, it's been my go-to email client for ages, despite this shortcoming which I had to learn to live with. The UI for searching past emails is very bad, so ironically I ended up changing habits to avoid having to search at all (not the ideal outcome of using a tool, but here we are)

JohnFen 3y ago
> I ended up changing habits to avoid having to search at all (not the ideal outcome of using a tool, but here we are) I may have gone to an even greater extreme. I installed a webmail front-end for the sole purpose of searching my emails. I use TBird for everything else.
mjrpes 3y ago
Because I usually know which folder contains what I'm searching for, 98% of the time I'm able to find what I'm looking for quickly using the filter bar. This ends up being a much better experience for me than the search tool. Because the filter bar doesn't put you in a new UI, you keep the benefits of continuing to use list/message panes: (a) UI context not lost, (b) the matches shows as a list, not the hard-to-scan context results that are default in search, (c) clicking on matches shows the email in the message panel, allowing you to quickly find the right message. The filter bar also lets you quickly toggle if your filter term is the recipient, sender, subject line, or message body. I wish the UI design of the filter bar could be the basic search tool, expanded in some way to allow for search within multiple/all folders, and slightly more complex searches (specify filters for person AND subject line). Perhaps when you click on the profile in the mailbox panel, the filter bar continues to show, letting you search on all folders. If in a parent folder, there could be a checkbox to show/filter all messages in child folders. The existing search UI could still exist and be used for advanced searching.

by j1elo 3y ago

JohnFen 3y ago

> I ended up changing habits to avoid having to search at all (not the ideal outcome of using a tool, but here we are) I may have gone to an even greater extreme. I installed a webmail front-end for the sole purpose of searching my emails. I use TBird for everything else.

mjrpes 3y ago

Because I usually know which folder contains what I'm searching for, 98% of the time I'm able to find what I'm looking for quickly using the filter bar. This ends up being a much better experience for me than the search tool. Because the filter bar doesn't put you in a new UI, you keep the benefits of continuing to use list/message panes: (a) UI context not lost, (b) the matches shows as a list, not the hard-to-scan context results that are default in search, (c) clicking on matches shows the email in the message panel, allowing you to quickly find the right message. The filter bar also lets you quickly toggle if your filter term is the recipient, sender, subject line, or message body. I wish the UI design of the filter bar could be the basic search tool, expanded in some way to allow for search within multiple/all folders, and slightly more complex searches (specify filters for person AND subject line). Perhaps when you click on the profile in the mailbox panel, the filter bar continues to show, letting you search on all folders. If in a parent folder, there could be a checkbox to show/filter all messages in child folders. The existing search UI could still exist and be used for advanced searching.