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To me it's a dealbreaker for iOS. iPhones are just toys that don't get real work done. I take a photo with with my phone and it's synced to my Linux desktop in

To me it's a dealbreaker for iOS. iPhones are just toys that don't get real work done. I take a photo with with my phone and it's synced to my Linux desktop in 1-2 seconds.

lost_tourist 3y ago
Strange flex on ios users lol.
- ubermonkey 3y ago
  Kind of a dumb, insecure, tribalist flex, but it's HN so it's what one expects here.
ubermonkey 3y ago
>iPhones are just toys that don't get real work done. That speaks more to your failure than to iOS's. I've been getting meaningful work done on iOS for a decade. It sure is popular for a certain sort of HN poster, presumably deeply insecure about their own choices, to drop in and do their best to shit on iOS whenever anyone says something positive about it. It's predictable as clockwork, but as useful as tits on a bull.
- RalfWausE 3y ago
  Tits on a bull would be incredible useful from an economic perspective i would guess...
shjake 3y ago
What particularly is lacking in iOS itself that would prevent anyone from developing a functioning cloud/remote sync app? Working with the filesystem was very tricky in the past but this is no longer the case with https://developer.apple.com/documentation/fileprovider https://developer.apple.com/documentation/fileprovider for the past 4-5 years.
devsda 3y ago
Toys or not, they are incredibly powerful devices that are very much locked down for some arbitrary reasons. Any sort of basic interaction outside of their own ecosystem even through established standards and protocols is made difficult or impossible. Case in point, I wanted to transfer a pic from an Android phone to an IPhone and was surprised to find that ios doesn't allow bluetooth file transfer! It is completely ridiculous to think that you need to involve a third-party app/service or device to transfer small amounts of data between two very expensive communication devices sitting next to each other.
- ubermonkey 3y ago
  >Any sort of basic interaction outside of their own ecosystem even through established standards and protocols is made difficult or impossible. Weird. I interact with ALL SORTS of other systems via established or even proprietary protocols using my iOS devices. >Case in point, I wanted to transfer a pic from an Android phone to an IPhone and was surprised to find that ios doesn't allow bluetooth file transfer! This is the kind of thing that Android people like to complain about, but the complaint is based in a failure to appreciate that iOS doesn't work like Android. There's only very limited interaction with the file system in iOS. This is by design. Complaining about that is like complaining that the original Mac had no command line. It's missing the point. Sharing photos between phones is most often done via messaging or email. That works beautifully. In neither case is a third party service required. There are additional avenues for photo sharing between two iOS devices, but those are features of the platform. It's not a failure of iOS that they don't work with Android.
  - kwhitefoot 3y ago
    > via messaging or email. That works beautifully. In neither case is a third party service required The third party is the mail server and the internet. It's still ridiculous.
    - ubermonkey 3y ago
      LOL. Whatever. This is the kind of thing Android people complain about, but it never comes up for iOS people. Sharing a photo from a computer involves plenty of "third party" actions, too; it's just not a big deal. It's simple and intuitive.

To me it's a dealbreaker for iOS. iPhones are just toys that don't get real work done. I take a photo with with my phone and it's synced to my Linux desktop in 1-2 seconds.

lost_tourist 3y ago

Strange flex on ios users lol.

ubermonkey 3y ago
Kind of a dumb, insecure, tribalist flex, but it's HN so it's what one expects here.

ubermonkey 3y ago

>iPhones are just toys that don't get real work done. That speaks more to your failure than to iOS's. I've been getting meaningful work done on iOS for a decade. It sure is popular for a certain sort of HN poster, presumably deeply insecure about their own choices, to drop in and do their best to shit on iOS whenever anyone says something positive about it. It's predictable as clockwork, but as useful as tits on a bull.

RalfWausE 3y ago
Tits on a bull would be incredible useful from an economic perspective i would guess...

shjake 3y ago

What particularly is lacking in iOS itself that would prevent anyone from developing a functioning cloud/remote sync app? Working with the filesystem was very tricky in the past but this is no longer the case with https://developer.apple.com/documentation/fileprovider https://developer.apple.com/documentation/fileprovider for the past 4-5 years.

devsda 3y ago

Toys or not, they are incredibly powerful devices that are very much locked down for some arbitrary reasons. Any sort of basic interaction outside of their own ecosystem even through established standards and protocols is made difficult or impossible. Case in point, I wanted to transfer a pic from an Android phone to an IPhone and was surprised to find that ios doesn't allow bluetooth file transfer! It is completely ridiculous to think that you need to involve a third-party app/service or device to transfer small amounts of data between two very expensive communication devices sitting next to each other.

ubermonkey 3y ago
>Any sort of basic interaction outside of their own ecosystem even through established standards and protocols is made difficult or impossible. Weird. I interact with ALL SORTS of other systems via established or even proprietary protocols using my iOS devices. >Case in point, I wanted to transfer a pic from an Android phone to an IPhone and was surprised to find that ios doesn't allow bluetooth file transfer! This is the kind of thing that Android people like to complain about, but the complaint is based in a failure to appreciate that iOS doesn't work like Android. There's only very limited interaction with the file system in iOS. This is by design. Complaining about that is like complaining that the original Mac had no command line. It's missing the point. Sharing photos between phones is most often done via messaging or email. That works beautifully. In neither case is a third party service required. There are additional avenues for photo sharing between two iOS devices, but those are features of the platform. It's not a failure of iOS that they don't work with Android.
- kwhitefoot 3y ago
  > via messaging or email. That works beautifully. In neither case is a third party service required The third party is the mail server and the internet. It's still ridiculous.
  - ubermonkey 3y ago
    LOL. Whatever. This is the kind of thing Android people complain about, but it never comes up for iOS people. Sharing a photo from a computer involves plenty of "third party" actions, too; it's just not a big deal. It's simple and intuitive.