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"The only downside is that there is no good iOS app." That's a dealbreaker for iOS folks, though. I hate the mission creep Dropbox has embraced, and would def

"The only downside is that there is no good iOS app." That's a dealbreaker for iOS folks, though. I hate the mission creep Dropbox has embraced, and would definitely consider something else, but I need access to my stuff on Windows, MacOS, and iOS. Anything that doesn't hit all three notes isn't a contender.

hparadiz 3y ago
To me it's a dealbreaker for iOS. iPhones are just toys that don't get real work done. I take a photo with with my phone and it's synced to my Linux desktop in 1-2 seconds.
- lost_tourist 3y ago
  Strange flex on ios users lol.
  - ubermonkey 3y ago
    Kind of a dumb, insecure, tribalist flex, but it's HN so it's what one expects here.
- ubermonkey 3y ago
  >iPhones are just toys that don't get real work done. That speaks more to your failure than to iOS's. I've been getting meaningful work done on iOS for a decade. It sure is popular for a certain sort of HN poster, presumably deeply insecure about their own choices, to drop in and do their best to shit on iOS whenever anyone says something positive about it. It's predictable as clockwork, but as useful as tits on a bull.
  - RalfWausE 3y ago
    Tits on a bull would be incredible useful from an economic perspective i would guess...
- shjake 3y ago
  What particularly is lacking in iOS itself that would prevent anyone from developing a functioning cloud/remote sync app? Working with the filesystem was very tricky in the past but this is no longer the case with https://developer.apple.com/documentation/fileprovider https://developer.apple.com/documentation/fileprovider for the past 4-5 years.
- devsda 3y ago
  Toys or not, they are incredibly powerful devices that are very much locked down for some arbitrary reasons. Any sort of basic interaction outside of their own ecosystem even through established standards and protocols is made difficult or impossible. Case in point, I wanted to transfer a pic from an Android phone to an IPhone and was surprised to find that ios doesn't allow bluetooth file transfer! It is completely ridiculous to think that you need to involve a third-party app/service or device to transfer small amounts of data between two very expensive communication devices sitting next to each other.
  - ubermonkey 3y ago
    >Any sort of basic interaction outside of their own ecosystem even through established standards and protocols is made difficult or impossible. Weird. I interact with ALL SORTS of other systems via established or even proprietary protocols using my iOS devices. >Case in point, I wanted to transfer a pic from an Android phone to an IPhone and was surprised to find that ios doesn't allow bluetooth file transfer! This is the kind of thing that Android people like to complain about, but the complaint is based in a failure to appreciate that iOS doesn't work like Android. There's only very limited interaction with the file system in iOS. This is by design. Complaining about that is like complaining that the original Mac had no command line. It's missing the point. Sharing photos between phones is most often done via messaging or email. That works beautifully. In neither case is a third party service required. There are additional avenues for photo sharing between two iOS devices, but those are features of the platform. It's not a failure of iOS that they don't work with Android.
    - kwhitefoot 3y ago
      > via messaging or email. That works beautifully. In neither case is a third party service required The third party is the mail server and the internet. It's still ridiculous.
      - ubermonkey 3y ago
        LOL. Whatever. This is the kind of thing Android people complain about, but it never comes up for iOS people. Sharing a photo from a computer involves plenty of "third party" actions, too; it's just not a big deal. It's simple and intuitive.
crossroadsguy 3y ago
> dealbreaker for iOS folks, though Is there anything that is a dealbreaker for "iOS folks"? If usability would have been a dealbreaker they might not have been on iOS in the first place. Let's just look at Syncthing not being on iOS - Apple makes sure things like Syncthing can't be on iOS. Mobius Sync does a trillion workarounds to give a semblance of being on iOS. So maybe "iOS folks" should reach out to Apple talking about why softwares like Syncthing (which is top notch!) is not on "iOS". I mean for heaven's sake Apple keeps devices so limited and they themselves don't write softwares to fully utilise a device's capacities and features and don't let anyone else write them. I was reading Logic Pro on iPad comments a day ago and "iOS folks" instead of being enraged at Apple giving peanuts in terms of capability on a fully capable device (that too after years and then not opening it up for other devs), they were going crazy as if Jesus just made third appearance on the fruit company website.
- ubermonkey 3y ago
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  - unstuck3958 3y ago
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  - carstenhag 3y ago
    Please, don't be condescending. People have different opinions. No need to be rude.
    - ubermonkey 3y ago
      Then take it up with the other guy.
- shjake 3y ago
  Other third party cloud storage providers seem to have no issue developing decent apps and there are APIs that allow them to be integrated in a similar way icloud is. So I’m not sure this is entirely on Apple…

hparadiz 3y ago

To me it's a dealbreaker for iOS. iPhones are just toys that don't get real work done. I take a photo with with my phone and it's synced to my Linux desktop in 1-2 seconds.

lost_tourist 3y ago
Strange flex on ios users lol.
- ubermonkey 3y ago
  Kind of a dumb, insecure, tribalist flex, but it's HN so it's what one expects here.
ubermonkey 3y ago
>iPhones are just toys that don't get real work done. That speaks more to your failure than to iOS's. I've been getting meaningful work done on iOS for a decade. It sure is popular for a certain sort of HN poster, presumably deeply insecure about their own choices, to drop in and do their best to shit on iOS whenever anyone says something positive about it. It's predictable as clockwork, but as useful as tits on a bull.
- RalfWausE 3y ago
  Tits on a bull would be incredible useful from an economic perspective i would guess...
shjake 3y ago
What particularly is lacking in iOS itself that would prevent anyone from developing a functioning cloud/remote sync app? Working with the filesystem was very tricky in the past but this is no longer the case with https://developer.apple.com/documentation/fileprovider https://developer.apple.com/documentation/fileprovider for the past 4-5 years.
devsda 3y ago
Toys or not, they are incredibly powerful devices that are very much locked down for some arbitrary reasons. Any sort of basic interaction outside of their own ecosystem even through established standards and protocols is made difficult or impossible. Case in point, I wanted to transfer a pic from an Android phone to an IPhone and was surprised to find that ios doesn't allow bluetooth file transfer! It is completely ridiculous to think that you need to involve a third-party app/service or device to transfer small amounts of data between two very expensive communication devices sitting next to each other.
- ubermonkey 3y ago
  >Any sort of basic interaction outside of their own ecosystem even through established standards and protocols is made difficult or impossible. Weird. I interact with ALL SORTS of other systems via established or even proprietary protocols using my iOS devices. >Case in point, I wanted to transfer a pic from an Android phone to an IPhone and was surprised to find that ios doesn't allow bluetooth file transfer! This is the kind of thing that Android people like to complain about, but the complaint is based in a failure to appreciate that iOS doesn't work like Android. There's only very limited interaction with the file system in iOS. This is by design. Complaining about that is like complaining that the original Mac had no command line. It's missing the point. Sharing photos between phones is most often done via messaging or email. That works beautifully. In neither case is a third party service required. There are additional avenues for photo sharing between two iOS devices, but those are features of the platform. It's not a failure of iOS that they don't work with Android.
  - kwhitefoot 3y ago
    > via messaging or email. That works beautifully. In neither case is a third party service required The third party is the mail server and the internet. It's still ridiculous.
    - ubermonkey 3y ago
      LOL. Whatever. This is the kind of thing Android people complain about, but it never comes up for iOS people. Sharing a photo from a computer involves plenty of "third party" actions, too; it's just not a big deal. It's simple and intuitive.

crossroadsguy 3y ago

> dealbreaker for iOS folks, though Is there anything that is a dealbreaker for "iOS folks"? If usability would have been a dealbreaker they might not have been on iOS in the first place. Let's just look at Syncthing not being on iOS - Apple makes sure things like Syncthing can't be on iOS. Mobius Sync does a trillion workarounds to give a semblance of being on iOS. So maybe "iOS folks" should reach out to Apple talking about why softwares like Syncthing (which is top notch!) is not on "iOS". I mean for heaven's sake Apple keeps devices so limited and they themselves don't write softwares to fully utilise a device's capacities and features and don't let anyone else write them. I was reading Logic Pro on iPad comments a day ago and "iOS folks" instead of being enraged at Apple giving peanuts in terms of capability on a fully capable device (that too after years and then not opening it up for other devs), they were going crazy as if Jesus just made third appearance on the fruit company website.

ubermonkey 3y ago
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- unstuck3958 3y ago
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- carstenhag 3y ago
  Please, don't be condescending. People have different opinions. No need to be rude.
  - ubermonkey 3y ago
    Then take it up with the other guy.
shjake 3y ago
Other third party cloud storage providers seem to have no issue developing decent apps and there are APIs that allow them to be integrated in a similar way icloud is. So I’m not sure this is entirely on Apple…