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As someone who was planning on going to CCC for the first time this year: this is very oblique, and doesn't give me the context that I need to understand your g

As someone who was planning on going to CCC for the first time this year: this is very oblique, and doesn't give me the context that I need to understand your grievance. What exactly is the problem with CCC, and what happened in 2019? (I didn't downvote you.)

dijit 4y ago
If I am specific people will come to defend people or attack others. I'm being purposefully unspecific. The message is intended to be read by the people who are enforcing vague rules, making hit groups, publicly humiliating others and in one case using physical force (and smugly). The people I'm referring to know exactly who they are, and the people who surround them know who I am referring to also. Which is the only people that a message such as this is meant to be serving. It's not meant as a warning to anyone else. I'm quite sure you will have fun at CCC it really is a blast - please don't read it as a warning. It is quite likely that you will feel the environment hints at what I am referring to, but I doubt it will affect your enjoyment unless you cross one of these people --- which is very unlikely of course, but it's something I am personally very wary of.
- Krasnol 4y ago
  This isn't more than a conspiracy theory than? You're not ready to give substance to your accusations, while simultaneously expecting us to accept your theory that there is some kind of conspiracy going on against your opinion and those who conspire would be those who "understand" your broad and unfunded accusations. Because this is the only way it wouldn't make your comment above look like just another conspiracy. Paradox.
- 1827163 4y ago
  And that is the essence of the "spiral of silence", because everyone stays quiet about it, then the problem never gets tackled by the community. It's precisely how totalitarian regimes work. We should all make a considerable effort to gather as much evidence as possible, so it can be forwarded to law enforcement for investigation? We have audio recorders, covert body cameras, you name it, they are all readily available and inexpensive nowadays (assuming it's legal to do so, which depends on the jurisdiction).
  - crimsoneer 4y ago
    It's such a spiral the op can't actually describe anything specific other than implying some nebulous silencing scheme?

dijit 4y ago

If I am specific people will come to defend people or attack others. I'm being purposefully unspecific. The message is intended to be read by the people who are enforcing vague rules, making hit groups, publicly humiliating others and in one case using physical force (and smugly). The people I'm referring to know exactly who they are, and the people who surround them know who I am referring to also. Which is the only people that a message such as this is meant to be serving. It's not meant as a warning to anyone else. I'm quite sure you will have fun at CCC it really is a blast - please don't read it as a warning. It is quite likely that you will feel the environment hints at what I am referring to, but I doubt it will affect your enjoyment unless you cross one of these people --- which is very unlikely of course, but it's something I am personally very wary of.

Krasnol 4y ago
This isn't more than a conspiracy theory than? You're not ready to give substance to your accusations, while simultaneously expecting us to accept your theory that there is some kind of conspiracy going on against your opinion and those who conspire would be those who "understand" your broad and unfunded accusations. Because this is the only way it wouldn't make your comment above look like just another conspiracy. Paradox.
1827163 4y ago
And that is the essence of the "spiral of silence", because everyone stays quiet about it, then the problem never gets tackled by the community. It's precisely how totalitarian regimes work. We should all make a considerable effort to gather as much evidence as possible, so it can be forwarded to law enforcement for investigation? We have audio recorders, covert body cameras, you name it, they are all readily available and inexpensive nowadays (assuming it's legal to do so, which depends on the jurisdiction).
- crimsoneer 4y ago
  It's such a spiral the op can't actually describe anything specific other than implying some nebulous silencing scheme?