He said "rarely", not "never". I think that's pretty accurate. As for William Lane Craig and the others, I would argue the difference between reflecting deepl

He said "rarely", not "never". I think that's pretty accurate. As for William Lane Craig and the others, I would argue the difference between reflecting deeply on a topic with an open mind, and simply acting the apologetic for a collection of preconceived dogmas. Besides, isn't Craig with the Discovery Institute?