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You're suggesting paying $1600/mo for your own place is a really good area of NYC is more the norm than paying $5k? That's simply untrue. Average 1 beds on Zum
by tempsy 3y ago
You're suggesting paying $1600/mo for your own place is a really good area of NYC is more the norm than paying $5k?
That's simply untrue. Average 1 beds on Zumper for all of Manhattan is $4k. In more central areas downtown it's absolutely going to be more right now. https://www.zumper.com/rent-research/manhattan-ny https://www.zumper.com/rent-research/manhattan-ny
And if you rent something that requires a brokers fee then that's another ~2 months of rent you're paying on your initial lease.
- woodruffw 3y agoI said I live in a "cool" area, not midtown Manhattan. I don't live in Manhattan at all, although I did for over 20 years. Looking at 1BR rentals in Bushwick and Ridgewood (not my areas, but similarly considered "cool"), the average is between $1800 and $2500. Studios average $1400 and $2100.
- tempsy 3y agoYou're still exaggerating. Streeteasy says median for Bushwick is $3200. Zumper has it at $2850 for a 1 bedroom https://www.zumper.com/rent-research/new-york-ny/bushwick https://www.zumper.com/rent-research/new-york-ny/bushwick Yes, it's possible to rent for cheaper in the outer boroughs hence why I specifically said central and convenient. If something is $1800 it's because it's a dump or a tiny studio. It's not a normal amount rent someone is paying at all for their own place right now.
- woodruffw 3y agoI don't know what to tell you: I pay about $1600 for my part of a three bedroom, which is two bedrooms to myself (one is my office), a private back yard, a front patio, and a furnished basement. I don't think I got a particularly good deal on it either, from talking to my neighbors and friends. It's not "luxury," but it definitely isn't a dump either -- from seeing other units in the neighborhood, it's probably strictly average. The rates provided on these kinds of sites don't necessarily reflect the median housing stock in neighborhoods in Brooklyn, which are frequently buildings where the owner lives in one of the units.
- tempsy 3y agoI'm talking about what it would cost an individual to live in their own 1 bedroom in a central and convenient area not a shared apartment with roommates.
- woodruffw 3y agoI just checked, and the last 1BR I lived in (Manhattan, in a very central and convenient neighborhood) was leased for $2250/mo this year.
- mustacheemperor 3y agoI read that whole exchange eager to learn the secret of an affordable one bedroom apartment in New York and the secret is rent part of a place with roommates. I can only chuckle.
- woodruffw 3y agoHaving a roommate is my choice; you can confirm the number ranges I gave for studios and 1BRs in those neighborhoods on most sites. I’ve never paid more than $2,000/mo in rent in NYC, and that was a 1BR in Manhattan in 2018.
- mustacheemperor 3y agoI don’t mean to denigrate the decision to live with roommates, I have for plenty of my life and may well again - I just wish NYC wasn’t so expensive!
- seedless-sensat 3y agoIn this whole exchange you implied you lived in a 1br apt for $1.6k in a cool area today, but now it comes out you share a 3br. I also chuckled
- woodruffw 3y agoI double-checked what I’ve written, and nowhere do I imply that. I said that one can find a 1BR.
- renlo 3y ago> Bushwick How was I able to sense that you lived in Bushwick before you stated it? :P . That said, Bushwick only makes sense (to me) if you don't need to commute.
- woodruffw 3y agoI wouldn't be caught living in Bushwick :-) (I live in another North Brooklyn neighborhood, one with much better subway access, including to Manhattan. I agree entirely about Bushwick not being an ideal neighborhood if your commute involves Manhattan.)