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Well that's horrifying

by koalacola 3y ago

tppiotrowski 3y ago
The headline or the data?
- mrwnmonm 3y ago
  Or your question?
- koalacola 3y ago
  Why not both?
okamiueru 3y ago
This is beverage sold in the US. It might sound a bit arrogant, but food safety and standards in the US are much lower than certain places. I hope research like this helps improve the situation.
- vuln 3y ago
  > but food safety and standards in the US are much lower than certain places. It is arrogant. You make a claim then do not show any evidence or data. You do not name those _certain places_. Which places and what data do you have to back up the claim?
  - lioeters 3y ago
    I neither support nor refute the claim, but one data point is the Global Food Security Index. In their 2022 report, the rating/ranking was: Finland Ireland Norway France Netherlands Japan Sweden Canada United Kingdom Portugal Switzerland Austria United States ... https://impact.economist.com/sustainability/project/food-security-index/ https://impact.economist.com/sustainability/project/food-sec... --- On the other hand: Why There is Nothing Wrong With American Food Standards - https://techround.co.uk/business/american-food-standards/ https://techround.co.uk/business/american-food-standards/
    - guhcampos 3y ago
      If you sort the index by "Quality and Safety", which sounds like the most appropriate for this context, the US comes in 3rd place, behind only Canada and Denmark, which I actually found to be quite surprising. On the other hand, what we perceive as the low quality of food in the US might be more geared towards the "healthiness" of that food and not its safety. For instance, I will often eat fast food for a couple days while recovering from food poisoning because I feel it's generally safer than fresh food. That thing is absent of any nutrition, but it's also almost sterile.
    - morsch 3y ago
      Interesting link! That seems to be the overall ranking, though, not the one for the category "Quality and Safety". Food safety is a subcategory of that, and "relevant food safety legislation" a sub-sub-category. The US scores a (perfect?) 100 in that sub-sub-category. It also scores 100 in nutrition labeling, which I found suprising, because my impression was that the nutrition and ingredient labels in the US are pretty subpar compared to the EU. But what do I know. https://impact.economist.com/sustainability/project/food-security-index/explore-countries/united-states https://impact.economist.com/sustainability/project/food-sec...

Well that's horrifying

tppiotrowski 3y ago

The headline or the data?

mrwnmonm 3y ago
Or your question?
koalacola 3y ago
Why not both?

okamiueru 3y ago

This is beverage sold in the US. It might sound a bit arrogant, but food safety and standards in the US are much lower than certain places. I hope research like this helps improve the situation.

vuln 3y ago
> but food safety and standards in the US are much lower than certain places. It is arrogant. You make a claim then do not show any evidence or data. You do not name those _certain places_. Which places and what data do you have to back up the claim?
- lioeters 3y ago
  I neither support nor refute the claim, but one data point is the Global Food Security Index. In their 2022 report, the rating/ranking was: Finland Ireland Norway France Netherlands Japan Sweden Canada United Kingdom Portugal Switzerland Austria United States ... https://impact.economist.com/sustainability/project/food-security-index/ https://impact.economist.com/sustainability/project/food-sec... --- On the other hand: Why There is Nothing Wrong With American Food Standards - https://techround.co.uk/business/american-food-standards/ https://techround.co.uk/business/american-food-standards/
  - guhcampos 3y ago
    If you sort the index by "Quality and Safety", which sounds like the most appropriate for this context, the US comes in 3rd place, behind only Canada and Denmark, which I actually found to be quite surprising. On the other hand, what we perceive as the low quality of food in the US might be more geared towards the "healthiness" of that food and not its safety. For instance, I will often eat fast food for a couple days while recovering from food poisoning because I feel it's generally safer than fresh food. That thing is absent of any nutrition, but it's also almost sterile.
  - morsch 3y ago
    Interesting link! That seems to be the overall ranking, though, not the one for the category "Quality and Safety". Food safety is a subcategory of that, and "relevant food safety legislation" a sub-sub-category. The US scores a (perfect?) 100 in that sub-sub-category. It also scores 100 in nutrition labeling, which I found suprising, because my impression was that the nutrition and ingredient labels in the US are pretty subpar compared to the EU. But what do I know. https://impact.economist.com/sustainability/project/food-security-index/explore-countries/united-states https://impact.economist.com/sustainability/project/food-sec...