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I think it's probably the opposite -- they've probably hired him to help build their new entertainment+surveillance stack.

throw9away6 3y ago
Probably, I just don’t think executives can drive that kind of innovation. Especially those who are in sustaining roles in already large and successful companies.
- interestica 3y ago
  But you just came up with his new slogan for their software+vehicles : "driving innovation"
  - tough 3y ago
    Maybe GM needs to hire throw9away6 for driving innovation in their software dpt
    - throw9away6 3y ago
      I’d Probably be just as ineffective but you could pay me less
      - OnlineGladiator 3y ago
        > ...pay...less Get this man a raise!
        tough 3y ago
        Or replace him with ChatGPT
        throw9away6 3y ago
        [flagged]
      - HeyLaughingBoy 3y ago
        But they'll think you're more effective if they pay you more!
SilasX 3y ago
Then wouldn't the Apple mentality be "Touchpads ... for everything!" (and thus a steb back)?
- dmonitor 3y ago
  Apple puts physical input methods where it matters, such as the wheel and buttons on their watches.
  - SilasX 3y ago
    They removed the home button on iPhones, which was a net loss, since face recognition is much less reliable and easy to use than fingerprint, and requires a visually-disruptive bar overlay to indicate you need to swipe up.
    - skyyler 3y ago
      Gestures are way more comfortable for me than a button ever was.
      - ChuckNorris89 3y ago
        Until your screen is wet from the rain or you have gloves on.
      - mgkimsal 3y ago
        You have to look at the device to open it. It's by nature another step of distraction. Grabbing a device and having your thumb on it opening it up so that it's ready to go by the time it reaches your eyes... it's faster. What gesture gets you back to the main/home screen as quickly? I still regret (somewhat) moving away from the SE, and might move back. I found an old one in the desk and it's making me want to move back.
  - ChuckNorris89 3y ago
    >such as the wheel and buttons on their watches But not on their phones.
phkahler 3y ago
My understanding of GM is that they outsource almost everything. Last time I hired an embedded software engineer from them, the guy felt he was in a very tiny niche within the company and it was a fluke his group still existed to write code. Infotainment systems may be different, but suppliers were doing most of the code several years back (I hired one of those guys too). With the desire to bring SaaS to automotive I would expect GM to bring some software development in-house, but they are a management-heavy company.
- hospitalJail 3y ago
  >Last time I hired an embedded software engineer from them, the guy felt he was in a very tiny niche within the company and it was a fluke his group still existed to write code. I've worked there. There are two types of people: "Lifers" which are the people you described. They are content with doing their pieces and never taking a step outside the cog they are part of. This is most of the people there. Then there are temporary workers. Contract or Independent minded, these are the people who have no trouble calling out the problem and working on it, even if its outside the job scope. They didn't learn this at GM, they learned this somewhere else. They are temporary because they see that GM is a zombie company. There are too many useless cogs that you described. There are likely more people tracking the completion of work, than those doing work. These people are looking at their resume and how they can grow their skills to leave and make more money. I feel like finding good workers at large companies are like playing the lottery.
  - phkahler 3y ago
    >> There are likely more people tracking the completion of work, than those doing work. I completely agree. I interviewed there and above a certain level all they really want is the ability to bargain with others for resources if you or your own people can't get something done or done on time. It's not a bad thing, it's just the entire focus at that level, which leads to more chiefs than indians. I think it stems from interdependence of components and the huge supply chain. You can't miss or it impacts the model year changeover. IMHO they need to work on that so they can have more incremental change if needed.
- 3y ago

throw9away6 3y ago

Probably, I just don’t think executives can drive that kind of innovation. Especially those who are in sustaining roles in already large and successful companies.

interestica 3y ago
But you just came up with his new slogan for their software+vehicles : "driving innovation"
- tough 3y ago
  Maybe GM needs to hire throw9away6 for driving innovation in their software dpt
  - throw9away6 3y ago
    I’d Probably be just as ineffective but you could pay me less
    - OnlineGladiator 3y ago
      > ...pay...less Get this man a raise!
      - tough 3y ago
        Or replace him with ChatGPT
        throw9away6 3y ago
        [flagged]
    - HeyLaughingBoy 3y ago
      But they'll think you're more effective if they pay you more!

SilasX 3y ago

Then wouldn't the Apple mentality be "Touchpads ... for everything!" (and thus a steb back)?

dmonitor 3y ago
Apple puts physical input methods where it matters, such as the wheel and buttons on their watches.
- SilasX 3y ago
  They removed the home button on iPhones, which was a net loss, since face recognition is much less reliable and easy to use than fingerprint, and requires a visually-disruptive bar overlay to indicate you need to swipe up.
  - skyyler 3y ago
    Gestures are way more comfortable for me than a button ever was.
    - ChuckNorris89 3y ago
      Until your screen is wet from the rain or you have gloves on.
    - mgkimsal 3y ago
      You have to look at the device to open it. It's by nature another step of distraction. Grabbing a device and having your thumb on it opening it up so that it's ready to go by the time it reaches your eyes... it's faster. What gesture gets you back to the main/home screen as quickly? I still regret (somewhat) moving away from the SE, and might move back. I found an old one in the desk and it's making me want to move back.
- ChuckNorris89 3y ago
  >such as the wheel and buttons on their watches But not on their phones.

phkahler 3y ago

My understanding of GM is that they outsource almost everything. Last time I hired an embedded software engineer from them, the guy felt he was in a very tiny niche within the company and it was a fluke his group still existed to write code. Infotainment systems may be different, but suppliers were doing most of the code several years back (I hired one of those guys too). With the desire to bring SaaS to automotive I would expect GM to bring some software development in-house, but they are a management-heavy company.

hospitalJail 3y ago
>Last time I hired an embedded software engineer from them, the guy felt he was in a very tiny niche within the company and it was a fluke his group still existed to write code. I've worked there. There are two types of people: "Lifers" which are the people you described. They are content with doing their pieces and never taking a step outside the cog they are part of. This is most of the people there. Then there are temporary workers. Contract or Independent minded, these are the people who have no trouble calling out the problem and working on it, even if its outside the job scope. They didn't learn this at GM, they learned this somewhere else. They are temporary because they see that GM is a zombie company. There are too many useless cogs that you described. There are likely more people tracking the completion of work, than those doing work. These people are looking at their resume and how they can grow their skills to leave and make more money. I feel like finding good workers at large companies are like playing the lottery.
- phkahler 3y ago
  >> There are likely more people tracking the completion of work, than those doing work. I completely agree. I interviewed there and above a certain level all they really want is the ability to bargain with others for resources if you or your own people can't get something done or done on time. It's not a bad thing, it's just the entire focus at that level, which leads to more chiefs than indians. I think it stems from interdependence of components and the huge supply chain. You can't miss or it impacts the model year changeover. IMHO they need to work on that so they can have more incremental change if needed.
3y ago