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We are living in a democracy. There is a significant portion of the population that does not want any movement on gun control. I understand most Americans agree

by suby 3y ago

We are living in a democracy. There is a significant portion of the population that does not want any movement on gun control. I understand most Americans agree that we need some type of background checks and other common sense restrictions in place, but the hesitation to implement this is largely because of the extreme faction, and honestly the gun control that there is broad support to pass wouldn't fix the problem anyway.

kmos17 3y ago
All polls report a majority of Americans want gun control, it’s not about a lack of movement on gun control, it’s the opposite, controls are being removed with horrible and predictable results. We are heading in the wrong direction on that issue.
- tourmalinetaco 3y ago
  >All polls You mean the same polls that said Trump had no chance in 2016? >controls are being removed with horrible and predictable results Ignoring the objective fact that disarming legal citizens does nothing to quell armed crime, what controls have been removed, and what were these “horrible” results? If anything more gun control has happened in the last 8 years, what with banning bump stocks, % lowers, the attempted ban on 3D printed firearms, red flag laws, and dozens of attempted laws infringing on the 2nd Amendment.
  - test098 3y ago
    > Ignoring the objective fact that disarming legal citizens does nothing to quell armed crime citation needed. what's the one unique thing about the united states that makes it #1 in mass shootings? banning bump stocks or other band-aid solutions are not going to make any kind of significant dent in mass murders.
    - tourmalinetaco 3y ago
      >citation needed Simple logic. Guns are manufactured outside of the US throughout the entirety of Central and South America, and can be made extremely cheaply using simple parts from a home improvement store. The only way to remove guns from criminals hands is to completely block all border movement to/from Mexico and ban all Home Depots and related stores federally. > united states… #1 in mass shootings More information required. Considering we’re only 32nd highest in the world for gun crime[0], I highly doubt we have less annual incidents than Venezuela and El Salvador. Especially since according to my research only 12 countries have recorded mass shootings[1], most of which contain extensive gun control. Thus without mass killings to compare it to, and lacking information of countries with similar/worse rates of gun homicides, makes “mass shootings” a flawed metric used only to push narratives. [0] - https://web.archive.org/web/20230418110343/https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/03/24/980838151/gun-violence-deaths-how-the-u-s-compares-to-the-rest-of-the-world https://web.archive.org/web/20230418110343/https://www.npr.o... [1] - https://web.archive.org/web/20230506023629/https://wisevoter.com/country-rankings/mass-shootings-by-country/ https://web.archive.org/web/20230506023629/https://wisevoter...

by suby 3y ago

kmos17 3y ago

All polls report a majority of Americans want gun control, it’s not about a lack of movement on gun control, it’s the opposite, controls are being removed with horrible and predictable results. We are heading in the wrong direction on that issue.

tourmalinetaco 3y ago
>All polls You mean the same polls that said Trump had no chance in 2016? >controls are being removed with horrible and predictable results Ignoring the objective fact that disarming legal citizens does nothing to quell armed crime, what controls have been removed, and what were these “horrible” results? If anything more gun control has happened in the last 8 years, what with banning bump stocks, % lowers, the attempted ban on 3D printed firearms, red flag laws, and dozens of attempted laws infringing on the 2nd Amendment.
- test098 3y ago
  > Ignoring the objective fact that disarming legal citizens does nothing to quell armed crime citation needed. what's the one unique thing about the united states that makes it #1 in mass shootings? banning bump stocks or other band-aid solutions are not going to make any kind of significant dent in mass murders.
  - tourmalinetaco 3y ago
    >citation needed Simple logic. Guns are manufactured outside of the US throughout the entirety of Central and South America, and can be made extremely cheaply using simple parts from a home improvement store. The only way to remove guns from criminals hands is to completely block all border movement to/from Mexico and ban all Home Depots and related stores federally. > united states… #1 in mass shootings More information required. Considering we’re only 32nd highest in the world for gun crime[0], I highly doubt we have less annual incidents than Venezuela and El Salvador. Especially since according to my research only 12 countries have recorded mass shootings[1], most of which contain extensive gun control. Thus without mass killings to compare it to, and lacking information of countries with similar/worse rates of gun homicides, makes “mass shootings” a flawed metric used only to push narratives. [0] - https://web.archive.org/web/20230418110343/https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/03/24/980838151/gun-violence-deaths-how-the-u-s-compares-to-the-rest-of-the-world https://web.archive.org/web/20230418110343/https://www.npr.o... [1] - https://web.archive.org/web/20230506023629/https://wisevoter.com/country-rankings/mass-shootings-by-country/ https://web.archive.org/web/20230506023629/https://wisevoter...